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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Never seen anoyone rank brave alongside or even above standard firefox.

No Mull?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Stop sharing and platforming the nazi

Also, this tierlist sucks fucking balls

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 day ago

This is a random screenshot he used in hos video for roughly 2 seconds. This is not his tierlist.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago

Not of his. This is a known widespread tierlist made by other person (I do not remember if this came from Reddit, a YT video or what, but it is well known)

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

I've looked into it and it's not even his tier list, just one he found online.

[–] [email protected] 127 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Just because PewDiePie switched to Linux doesn't mean we should listen to his browser recommendations

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

not his recommendations

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 days ago (1 children)

True but he's sparking more interest in FOSS so that's still a good thing. I doubt his advice is perfect but if it gets more people started onto their own journey it's a win.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

You're right about that, I was moreso saying that his crappy browser tier list isn't worth sharing

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago

Very true, I feel like people miss the point of his own experience and/or opinion

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[–] [email protected] 138 points 2 days ago (18 children)

Brave is a series scam company.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago

Exactly I'd even use Chrome before I'd ever touch Brave.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Would you mind giving some context? Ive never used Brave, but my dad does. In which sense is it a "scam"? Would want him to switch if its terrible

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

People care more about CEO's opinion on politics and hate Web3 crypto more than they understand technical browser stuff.

Brave is far from perfect and the company had their contreveries but honestly if you disable all the cryptocrap and tweak it a tiny bit so it does not show you ads and feature you don't use it is the best chromium browser in regards to security and privacy.

Ungoogled chromium by default can't even compare, it's not crap but brave does so much more than it's better for the vast majority of users.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Ngl, feel like his tier list is based on usability while avoiding big tech.

Tbh even if this tierlist is not the best or great, it still is "good enough". Plus the most important thing is to get tons of people interested.

I rather have "good enough" tier list that reaches to millions of people, then have a perfect tierlist that only reaches out to less than a dozen people.

Because amongst the millions of people who are interested, thousands of them will do their own research into privacy and dig deeper into it.


Plus right now, the biggest weakness of privacy is the fact that our community is too small to make an impact.

Having someone give this much outreach and influence to attract attention towards privacy is a good thing. (well, as long as their advice are on the positive end of the spectrum, and pewdiepie's advise surely is, even if its not perfect)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Sir, this is 2025, we don't do nuanced opinions here anymore.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago

Ppl focusing on the negative. It's just his subjective list. He doesn't claim to be an expert. Lemmy autism peaking here. More exposure to foss is good guys

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 days ago (5 children)

What exactly has he done to warrant considering this? He's a yt star, not a privacy expert.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Somehow even less useful, since the source can't even be verified.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I know it's been said, but Brave is a hard no. Replace it with Ungoogled Chromium. I haven't seen the video so I don't understand why it's in the "not ideal for a normal human" list, and I am biased since I use plenty of "not for normal" tools.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 days ago (1 children)

that is not his list, just a random screenshot.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah i just checked the video and it appeared for like 2 seconds as a side note. He never even tried Brave apparently.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

probably just his editor put it for the video

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 days ago (13 children)

Brave? Hard no. Vivaldi? Also no.

Also, where are qutebrowser and Zen?

qutebrowser and IceCat are real top of the game when it comes to privacy. But then, they break some of the sites functionality, especially IceCat who seems to be going under the "if your site doesn't work, it's your site's problem" motto.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago

... I don't think listening to random big influencers is a good way forward (in anything).

(As to the list - others already pointed out everything, y'all nerds know shit! <3)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I couldn't care less about what this character says.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I kinda think Floorp is better than waterfox

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Floorp is amazing

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

LibreWolf W. Missing my boy Zen Browser on there tho

Edit: also RIP Mull 😔✊

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Superiority complex in the comments.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

No Zen-Browser (though I am not sure when this vid was made), and Pale Moon should be in the "Not ideal for a normal human" at best.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (8 children)

The only problem with Ungoogled that makes it "not ideal for a normal human" is that fact that it is still cumbersome af to download it. Regular people don't know github and how to click on "show all assets" and pick the right build.

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