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[–] [email protected] -4 points 6 days ago (42 children)

1 843 701 US prison population

1 686 108 China prison population

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[–] [email protected] 105 points 1 week ago (7 children)
[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Interesting how it's southern states at the top eh?

Can't have anything to do with the fact that the US legally allows prisoner slavery right?

Winder what the race ratio of the prison population is.

This is the country routinely accusing other countries of having "prison camps."

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Isn't that graph a bit misleading

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In what way is it misleading? It seems straightforward to me.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (10 children)

I thought the states were being compared to other countries. Didn't look properly on the phone.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They are. Just ALL the states are significantly worse than most countries.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes but that doesn't really say much. We know it's bad in the US. If all German states were bad that would still only tell you that in average it's bad in Germany

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

How is a per-capita incarceration rate, with a reference to the superset included directly on the plot, misleading? Other than including more than El Salvador for the sake of external reference, which is almost certainly a size issue.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I thought the states were being compared to other countries. Didn't look properly on the phone.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago

They are (which is the point) the countries are in orange USA (as an overall average) and el Salvador are the only countries that make it on to the list.

[–] naught 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They are! The other countries are so far down on the graph they are not visible

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Well yes because the US as a whole has a high number. If you added cities they would have even more in the high numbers. What's the point about that?

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

The top score would be Gaza tho with 100% of its population being prisoners of Israel.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The rest are in undeclared labor camps

Goes for both

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The rest are in undeclared labor camps

Goes for both

US labor camps are not undeclared (though extraterritorial black sites are). They’re called prisons, and the labor is slave labor, thanks to the 13th amendment.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The previous user is a bit off base with the labor camps idea (not to say that the Xinjiang detention camps for Uyghurs aren't widely known), but it is worth noting that China does utilize administrative detentions/行政拘留 for smaller offenses which are kept statistically separate from prison counts.

If Raiden needs a source, the law covering administrative detentions can be reviewed here:

https://www.gov.cn/xinwen/2021-01/23/content_5582030.htm

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

but it is worth noting that China does utilize administrative detention

Isn't that the same as Jails in the US which is separate from prison statistics?

Jail is where you go for the night when arrested for disorderly conduct and are released the next day.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Administrative detentions can be longer. On paper they can hold you about a month, but it can be longer than that with a judge's signoff if they have proof of a crime.

This is typically where the police try to get you to confess to something and drag it out as long and uncomfortably as possible until you do, after which you either get to go free (though you end up on a list for a long time) or you may go to a "black jail"/黑監獄 which is a sort of under-the-table prison.

The terms of release can also sometimes require completion of a rehabilitation program, which is often the voluntary alternative to prison, or getting transferred to a short stay detention center for a few months to perform community service.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Administrative detentions can be longer. On paper they can hold you about a month, but it can be longer than that with a judge’s signoff if they have proof of a crime.

And in the US, jail can be up to just short of a year.

This is typically where the police try to get you to confess to something and drag it out as long and uncomfortably as possible until you do, after which you either get to go free (though you end up on a list for a long time) or you may go to a “black jail”/黑監獄 which is a sort of under-the-table prison.

The terms of release can also sometimes require completion of a rehabilitation program, which is often the voluntary alternative to prison, or getting transferred to a short stay detention center for a few months to perform community service.

So pretty similar to the US.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

That meme is working extra hard today but it's just so perfect for the occasion.

[–] The_Hideous_Orgalorg 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Jail is usually for holding during due process and for sentences up to a year. Prison is generally for sentences longer than a year.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Source: The US propaganda you received and believe uncritically.

What's next, you explaining their inherent need to lie because of their race?

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