Political Memes

Is it legal in the US to shoot people who are trying to kidnap you?

I mean, anyone can go around claiming to be law enforcement or ICE or whatever, but with no badge or ID, how are people supposed to know that this isn't a gang trying to trafic them?

It's called "disappearing someone" and it was something that was supposedly done by dictators and tyrants.

Cracks me the fuck up the rest of the world thinks this now.

This has been the case since Bush passed Citizens United and it was even happening before that. RIP Rosenbergs.

There's gotta be ~~criminals~~ non-ICE who exploit this. Like it must be so easy now for ransomers to kidnap somebody.

What may have been the largest organized protests in American history were just a few days back, the president has record-breakingly low approval, even his own party's talking heads are turning against him. If you're not going to be satisfied by anything short of armed uprising then at least be brave enough to say as much, but pretending that Americans just don't see anything wrong and aren't doing anything is an act of wilful and blatant ignorance.

There are still people here who still make the excuse that Harris is just as bad as Trump, you guys are fucked as a country

I would say the US has an executive with aspirations to implement aspects of a fascist state. As long as millions of people are protesting in the streets, the courts are ruling against the executive on points of law and people are standing their ground it is still a long road for the executive to get where they want to go. If the country really was full fascist you would be totally fucked and being shipped with your family to a concentration camp for disloyalty to great leader right now.

Unlike some other countries where law enforcement and prisons might be state run on principle, the US has a history of privatizing such functions. They had the union busting Pinkerton thugs, for profit prisons and bounty hunters. A society that didn't cry out when the Pinkertons were busting the heads of working people or kids were being railroaded into for profit prison slavery shouldn't be surprised when thugs are clearing the streets of immigrants. That is just America sadly. That nastiness has always been there.

For some it'll probably take til his fourth

For Texas at least, under penal code 9.31(a)(1-3) it’s presumed to be reasonable self defense to use force (it specifically does not mention what kind of force, but it is assumed that deadly force is included, I think) against a person who “was committing or attempting to commit aggravated kidnapping, murder, sexual assault, aggravated sexual assault, robbery, or aggravated robbery.”

Are people in denial? It just seems like a commonly understood thing. I've talked to straight CNN consuming boomers and even they see it for what it is.

For the record I'm in Canada so maybe it's just hard to see from the inside.

We did just have the largest protest in the history of the nation... I think some of us are aware.