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Cambridge researchers urge public health bodies like the NHS to provide trustworthy, research-driven alternatives to platforms driven by profit.

Women deserve better than to have their menstrual tracking data treated as consumer data - Prof Gina Neff

Smartphone apps that track menstrual cycles are a “gold mine” for consumer profiling, collecting information on everything from exercise, diet and medication to sexual preferences, hormone levels and contraception use.

This is according to a new report from the University of Cambridge’s Minderoo Centre for Technology and Democracy, which argues that the financial worth of this data is “vastly underestimated” by users who supply profit-driven companies with highly intimate details in a market lacking in regulation.

The report’s authors caution that cycle tracking app (CTA) data in the wrong hands could result in risks to job prospects, workplace monitoring, health insurance discrimination and cyberstalking – and limit access to abortion.

They call for better governance of the booming ‘femtech’ industry to protect users when their data is sold at scale, arguing that apps must provide clear consent options rather than all-or-nothing data collection, and urge public health bodies to launch alternatives to commercial CTAs.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 days ago

Use free and open source software to protect your data. This goes for everybody on any device.

[–] pbg 5 points 5 days ago

flo app makes $192 million a year with 5 million paying users, which seems absolutely wild to me for something that covers such a basic need

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Made my own desktop app in python (tkinter) which encrypts the data with GPG. It has predictions and potential ovulation days. The predictions seem pretty accurate so far.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Has "if it makes a funny noise I'll shoot the computer" vibes, love it

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

Haha thanks. If you want to check it out, the link is: https://codeberg.org/kingorgg/period_tracker

I haven't tried it on windows though, so I'm not sure if it will work properly on there. It's just a personal project for now. The UI is pretty basic too.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My wife used to use the tracker in fitbit (I think), but once US states started passing laws to track periods, she's stopped using it. It's the wild west in my house now.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

There are 2 open source menstrual trackers in f-droid. They don't share data.

[–] Corkyskog 12 points 6 days ago

You can also use an analog tracker...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

As a trans woman, I make sure to log my irregular bi-weekly periods on flo to make sure their data is tip top!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yes of course but it's marketing data.

Marketing data. We need it for marketing to people so they can spend money.

Don't you understand! Marketing data!!!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

past performance may not predict future. js. mark a calendar

[–] [email protected] 84 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (24 children)

For christ sake, is there no open source option for such a simple task?

Edit:
2 people here could point to drip within 15 minutes of my post, and a third to the fact there are options on F-droid. So why the fuck don't women just use that?
Well i guess the ones with harmful advertising have better graphics or somemeting. Or the fact they allow advertising makes them more visible on google play. And you probably can't even get drip on iPhones.

[–] [email protected] 124 points 1 week ago (2 children)

There is! It's called drip and is a project started by a berlin-based feminist collective iirc.

https://dripapp.org/

Free, open-source, local data only

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

Also trans inclusive which has the double benefit of not being the cliché pink. :)

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 week ago (2 children)

So why the fuck don’t women just use that?

They probably don't know about it. If I search "period tracker" on Google Play, Drip is in about 40th place in the results. That's several screens down, past a bunch of search suggestions, and the parts where it's open source, on-device, and optionally encrypted aren't clear until I tap on it and read the description.

And you probably can’t even get drip on iPhones.

There's some irony in a comment dealing with people making decisions that are against their interests because they're insufficiently informed speculating incorrectly about something like this when it's easy to check. Drip is, in fact available for iPhone.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Yeah, discoverability is a massive issue on the Play store. If it doesn't bring Daddy Google 30% of whatever they shovel through in ad money or mtx, then you won't see it.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Because its effort. We have to get the average person to care about their security and privacy before they will bother using these alternatives. It's much easier for them to download a popular one off an app store and have the data stick with them, than it is to download f-droid, find the right app, make sure its still supported and setup their own data backup.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

People are mentioning drip, and that's on the Play Store. It's literally the same amount of effort as installing a surveillance app.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago

Does drip pay to have their app at the top of the list? Because that's about how far most people look

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 week ago (8 children)

I mean there are at least 2 apps for that in F-Droid. It's just that most people are FOSS illiterate and only if a big corpo give them shit then they trust it.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I tried to talk to my wife about data ownership, opensource, etc. but it's difficult to convey how important it is. She uses Flow. I'm trying to get her to at least try alternatives such as Drip

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago (8 children)

I happen to be a penis owner.

So what would happen if I were to install and use such a monthly tracker app and pretend I've been having regular monthlies for a while, then suddenly I miss a couple periods, then suddenly start having periods again?

Would the cops come beating my door down claiming I had an abortion? 🤔

Fuck this dystopian mass surveillance shit!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Would the cops come beating my door down claiming I had an abortion? 🤔

I don't think that has happened starting from a period tracking app yet. There was a case involving an unencrypted messaging app used to discuss a criminalized abortion.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

I think even something like Drip is not sufficient in this kind of situation. If the police can compel someone to unlock their phone and decrypt data, then being local-only won't stop them. Of course it's a lot easier to ensure that no data exists if it's local-only and something happens that might attract the interest of the police.

Nothing in this comment should be construed as legal advice.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

Yep. Info never leaves your phone.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

My wife just asks me to grab her boobs and I can generally let her know several days out and be accurate to within half a day.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago

You need to teach me this skill. Any excuse to get frisky with my wife.

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