...but ten 1000 person marches across the city would cripple us : unions

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

It's because their approach to protests is to form police lines. They want to form a phalanx-style wall of police that cuts off access to the road. This limits freedom of movement and lets them direct the protest towards a given direction if they decide to break it up and fire tear gas into the crowd.

They probably don't have enough people to form 10 police lines.

I would call this "decentralized protest" and yes it cripples the current tactics of the police.

Their answer will be decentralized policing, basically nazi tactics. Informants, tip lines, rewards for ratting our your neighbor. The FBI uses the same type of tactic when they do manhunts. Except they will use these tactics to target the people organizing the protests.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Why is it only people in Califonia protesting?

The national guard can probably handle almost any number of groups of people in one state, but how many could they handle in 50 states?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's not, there have been 1000s of priest throughout the entire country.

The question should be why isn't the media covering it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And why aren't people posting about it on Lemmy?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I can't tell if this is a serious question,

Lemmy, is a tiny portion of the Internet. If I was posting something with a call to action this small community is not where I would post to reach the most people .

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Nah I meant why isn't anyone posting about the protests that have already happened. But I saw one article about a couple others today.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

It isn't just California. But Cali is getting all the press because corporate media is state media in an oligarchy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Every state has a National Guard. I can see how that would be confusing now that you mention it, but they're basically just a reservist military that the governors mostly control outside of an official war.

In any event, they're still federal military, the fascists would just mobilize the real army, like how the shitcan is trying to send 700 Marines.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Because there's National Guard in every state. The National Guard deployed in LA is just the California National Guard. And it's just a fraction of the CA National Guard being used. And most of them aren't doing much (some are guarding federal buildings, most don't even have any orders), it's actually the LAPD that's handling the protests.

You can and should have protests in other cities but do so peacefully. If you spend too much time on lemmy you'll constantly be told we're about to storm the Bastille any day now. This place is full of psychos that are constantly pushing for violence. They are idiots, you should ignore them.

Honestly if I were conspiratorial minded I might think some of the violence was some false flag kinda shit because burning cars while waving Mexican flags is exactly the imagery Trump did all of this to get.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

And most of them aren’t doing much (some are guarding federal buildings, most don’t even have any orders), it’s actually the LAPD that’s handling the protests.

Because they are deployed to protect federal facilities and employees doing their duties, not to break up protests. So until protesters go do something like attack a federal building or assault an ICE agent it's outside their orders. Protest crowd control is on the regular police.

I might think some of the violence was some false flag kinda shit

Uh-huh. Remember, violence from the other side is proof they are violent thugs, violence from my side is a false flag or otherwise caused by the other side. This previous sentence is of course said regardless of what side you are on.

But seriously, this is some "J6 was undercover FBI and Antifa" level bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yeah I was meaning why aren't there more peaceful protests throughout the country, but I guess there have been but Trump has decided to escalate only in California by deploying national guard and marines, and as a result only the California one is getting media coverage.

I don't think it's a false flag op, but I wouldn't be surprised if the burning cars were just a result of a tear gas grenade going through a window and setting fire to the car seat from the heat or something like that...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

If anyone would like to read the source for that statement, it comes from a July, 2020 survey of LAPD officers.

The original quote, only attributed to “one participant” was, “We can handle one 10,000-person protest, but 10 1,000-person protests throughout the city will overwhelm us.”

https://ia801703.us.archive.org/22/items/july-2020-surveys-of-lapd-officers/2020_july_lappl_membership_survey_summaries_text.pdf

[–] [email protected] 53 points 3 days ago

The fediverse way

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is the way.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

This would work against the deployment of armed forces too!

Each time they deploy the army, start up a new protest on the other side of the country. Start so many "fires" they literally can't fight them all.

The people have the numbers on their side.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 4 days ago

Decentralized tactic against a strong centralized opponent.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 days ago (4 children)

What about one group of a million people. That would be a proper protest, the european way

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

This is a protest, not the release of a new iphone.

[–] Tar_alcaran 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The French way. We Dutch people are pretty cowardly and have lost any skill at protesting en masse

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

How the mighty have fallen. I recall that you once killed and consumed your prime minister.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Better to have a hundred groups of 10 000 people.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Or 1000 groups of 1000

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Or 1000000 groups of 1.

[–] taladar 14 points 3 days ago

Yeah, I wonder how LAPD can be unable to handle ten groups of 1000 people in a metropolitan area of almost 20 million people, I would assume ten groups of 1000 people is more like a quiet weekend.

[–] throwawayacc0430 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Gather everyone at Lafayette Square, Washington D.C. and have a few camera people nearby livestreaming.

I wonder if they'd do a Tiananmen: USA Edition

[–] untakenusername 2 points 3 days ago (3 children)

is it worth the risk?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Well, I won't be there, so yes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Absolutely

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If you assess that protesting is not worth the personal risk, I fear that you might be undervaluing the risk of not protesting.

[–] untakenusername 1 points 2 days ago

the goal is to get peoeples attention on importnat stuff, not to see if you get run over by tanks or not

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago

How about 10000 1 person marches?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 days ago

Spread em thin.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago

Divide and conquer

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

Great to start and organize many people quickly, but it has to evolve into a strong opposition chain of command else it burns out rapidly. Ask OP where Belarus went with it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Those would with against the LAPD, but would be less effective against the National Guard or Marines.