Conservatives: "ThE CliNtOnS!!"
Liberals: "Throoooowww them in a volcano. Thnx bye."
this post was submitted on 29 Aug 2023
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Nah, you're confusing liberals and progressives. A common mistake but no less egregious for it.
Neoliberals (which are the kind of liberals in charge of the Dem party and mainstream media outside of the far right bubble) still ADORE the Clintons and will not only defend them no matter what but also take their word as gospel on any subject they deign to comment on.
"Most qualified presidential candidate in history!!11!”
For real they're almost as bad as Republicans. And they're dirty as fuck. You couldn't make a single criticism of Hillary Clinton without some douchebag calling you sexist. Meanwhile some of us still remember the cowardly racist tactics she pulled against Obama in 2008.
No Clinton will ever get my vote in a primary. Fuck her and her shitty lying supporters. They spent months viciously attacking anyone and everyone and then couldn't figure out why voter enthusiasm was so low for her 🙄
Democrats still haven't figured out that their voters don't respond to negative campaigning despite Obama and multiple studies clearly showing the way. Instead they keep trying to win over white Republicans like it's still the 90s.
I completely agree on all of that except "almost as bad as Republicans".
They're pretty much identical to the pre-Obama Republicans and a few of the Obama era Republicans, but as awful as neoliberals are, the GOP is currently literally a fascist party, which is much worse.
Don't get me wrong, I still maintain that "not fascist" is nowhere near high enough for the bar and that neoliberalism is awful, but let's not lose all sense of scale..
I don't mean politically and I never said anything about their politics. I mean in terms of the tactics they use to win and the negative cult mentality they try to foster. I still voted for her ass because it was obvious Trump was a fascist from the start, but these people aren't helping defeat fascism.
Every primary season they spend months playing divide and conquer and then make no effort at reconciliation or changing over to a proven positive campaign strategy. They've played no small part in weakening opposition to Republicans. They also drained the state parties of financial resources to help Clinton win and then never built them back up again. The Democrats are totally outclassed by GOP GOTV campaigns at the state and local level and their inept leadership does nothing about it.
Ah ok, we're in full agreement then! 🤝
What order do you want to do them? Should Clinton or Trump be first?
As long as they both are guilty, who cares?
I was saying that's what you ask this person and watch them die inside when they realize your idea of justice isn't partisan.
Both! Just because someone has a D next to their name doesn't exempt them from the law.
oh, but that's where you're wrong.
He's right. It's not the D or the R, it's the $.
It's time this malarkey were over.