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Democratic Voters Choose Fighting Corporate Power Over Neoliberal Abundance 'Scam': Poll (www.commondreams.org)

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"To get out of the political wilderness, and win over not just Democrats but also Independent and moderate voters, policymakers need to loudly state their case for helping middle- and working-class Americans," Demand Progress corporate power program director Emily Peterson-Cassin said in a statement Thursday. "What these voters want is clear: a populist agenda that takes on corporate power and corruption," Peterson-Cassin added. "The stakes are too high for Democrats to fixate on a message that only appeals to a minority of independent and Democratic voters."

Well, duh...

Maybe some Dems somewhere will pull their head from their ass, read this, and seriously do some thinking on it.

Though, my hopes for current "establishment" Dems are low to the point of nearly non-existent... 🤦‍♀️ 🤡 🖕

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Maybe some Dems somewhere will pull their head from their ass, read this, and seriously do some thinking on it.

You mean politicians like Bernie and AOC?

Or DNC leaders like the chair?

Because all three of them have spent the last couple months doing so in red/purple districts in preparation of flipping the house in the midterms...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Good for those folks...

Gonna take more than just them to accomplish the goal.

Would that it could be more ubiquitous but I just don't see that happening. 🤷‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

but I just don’t see that happening

I mean, politics moves at the pace of elections...

It's not gonna be fast, but it's happening. The chair wasn't an abnormally, the voting members of the DNC have been trending progressive for decades.

The only way neoliberals gets control of the party again is if a neoliberal becomes president, and that won't happen with a fair Dem primary.

I've spent literal decades criticizing the DNC, I didn't do a 180 for no reason.

If you doubt Ken Martin. Look into how he ran Minnesota and the politicians who flourished under him. He's earned the benefit of the doubt from me.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

All I have in response is... Welp, we'll see. 🤷‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

All I can ask is you vote in the Dem primaries.

It's a primary, vot for something, you'll never have to hold your nose in a primary.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's a primary, vot for something, you'll never have to hold your nose in a primary.

It's a nice notion and all, but in far too many locations, people have to vote strategically even in the primary. Very specific example: my state has a gubernatorial election coming up this year. Red and blue primaries are loaded. One of the blue candidates is a lapdog for the state ~~mob boss~~ power broker. Another blue candidate is a sleazeball with money to have been running conservative talking point ads for the past two months. The rest of the field is a mix of middle of the road types and various levels of progressive. At least some of them are there to split the vote, which is historically what the ~~mob boss~~ power broker has done to protect his people (like, say, his little brother) from getting primaried once entrenched. Whoever survives the primary is likely going to do so with only ~30-40% of the vote. If I vote by platform, it's effectively tossing my vote away. The only chance at avoiding the sleazeball or lap dog is everyone unifying behind some other (likely) moderate. Failing that, the governor's race is going to mirror the presidential, with someone at best unlikable vs whatever the conservative grift machine turns out.

And in other more local races, the primary is the election. Shit is that deeply embedded here. Being in a solid blue district has its upshots. Fair and open primaries aren't one of them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

This shit right here is why FPTP needs to die. There are definitely better and worse options among the proportional voting systems, but all of them are at least better than FPTP.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

If it comforts you any, I vote in any/all elections be they primary, local, federal, or otherwise.

I never have to "hold my nose", but my results have been... somewhat less than inspiring. 🤷‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Democrats need to purge ranks of MAGA-lite members like Cory, Chuck, Nancy, and…well…all of’em except Jasmine, AOC, Ro, and Bernie.

At this point, too many are ready to burn it all down simply because they see the lies and complicity.

You don’t win people over by being the lesser of two evils.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What was protecting them was a biased DNC who were fine losing a seat to a Republican to shut up a progressive.

We have an unbiased DNC now.

Which is all we need, the DNC doesn't need to worry about kicking out incumbents the voters hate. We just need to let voters pick what they want in primaries.

And now that it's going to be competitive again, we'll see a lot more retire anyways.

Can you picture Pelosi actually having to do debates and campaigning against a 40 year old progressive with actual authentic grass roots support?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You have a lot more faith in the DNC than I feel is warranted.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's funny: before the change in DNC leadership, @[email protected] stood out for how harshly critical he was of the Democrats, to the point that he often got downvoted because people thought he was some kind of concern troll. Then, of course, all his dire predictions came true.

It's almost as if he's paying close attention and understands the DNC very well.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I won’t believe it until I see it for at least three election cycles.

And I won’t be holding my breath.

I’ve been disappointed every single time and have zero hope.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Those people are democrats in name only, I call them DINOS.

I once saw AOC use her right hand so she’s not left enough either.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This really comes down to technocrats vs the people. The technocrats want to double down on neoliberalism because many economists and other experts are telling them it's the only way. The field of economics, especially in the US is mostly just a cult of free market evangelists. Technocrats like Klein believe in listening to experts, which I would normally strongly agree with, but I just can't listen to experts who advise that we double down on the same god damn policies that have left so many millions of Americans feeling left behind, desperate, and hopeless. It's insanity.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

The economy became a religion for the technocrats. This is a huge issue as you're fighting a belief and not facts.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

Fuck Ezra Klein for trying to launder what isn’t working on behalf of the rich and powerful.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

The Democratic Party is just a token opposition, for show. The elections are already decided.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

I HATE EZRA KLEIN

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Liberals choose fascism over socialism the same a fascist. Because they are fascists too.

[–] throwawayacc0430 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Welp, I guess everyone I've ever met is a nazi.

(I've only met liberals IRL, never met a leftist yet)