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  2. We're trying to reduce the numbers of hours a person has to work.

  3. We talk about the end of paid work being mandatory for survival.

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[–] [email protected] 105 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Pro Tip: corporations won't just give you this, you sort of have to riot until you force the government make it illegal for them to not do it. And even then you'll probably have to re-defend it every few years.

Source: am from Europe.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Or, hear me out, cut out the middle man and get rid of the government so that you can then get rid of corporations.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 11 months ago

Of course they do. It’s madness that you’re at the mercy of an employer who decides how many vacation days you get if you get anything at all.

General well-being, physical and mental shouldn’t be left to employers. A certain minimum should be mandatory, if an employer wants to be attractive, they can add more instead of pretending two weeks is generous. No one can recover from work (or life) related stress in just a week or maybe two, it’s insanity.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 11 months ago (5 children)

You know it's just a bit of an internet joke that we take the whole of August off, right? Just because we've got enough vacation days to do that if we wanted doesn't mean that anyone actually uses them all up in one go at the most expensive time of the year for hotels, flights etc.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

And summer is only July in northern Europe.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

It was June in the UK this year :/

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

My summer vacation is 4 weeks and I use that every july - august all in one go as does my SO and all of the people I work with. This is on top of my week long winter vacation and the 10 or so calendar holidays we all get through the year. I also "earn" one extra holiday every 2 weeks or so that I can pretty much spend when ever I want.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

I mean... It's not that weird some factories close during august nearly completely and everyone gets the holidays during that month for example.

[–] the_post_of_tom_joad 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sure, but to someone who has 4 unpaid days off a year that distinction doesn't matter ya layabouts ;)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

All joking aside, I don't understand how you could live like that? I'm finding it hard this year because I'm getting married in November and taking 3 weeks. That has meant that I've had to really eek out my other 3 weeks throughout the year.

[–] the_post_of_tom_joad 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

How i live currently is very different than i used to pre-covid. Post? I take unpaid days off whenever i can afford it and feel like it. I don't fucking care anymore.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Damn, I'm sorry dude that taking days off has to be a financial decision. Good on you looking after yourself though.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

my experience is the opposite. I take the shortest vacations of the people I know who usually take 4 weeks off and then just do unpaid later if they need more time. Definitely could be a difference of PMC vs the prolest of proles. I spread it out but i get looked at weird

[–] [email protected] 31 points 11 months ago

headline should read "at least 34% of americans have serious brain damage"

[–] [email protected] 31 points 11 months ago (2 children)

who gives a shit what Americans want, they should poll corporations instead

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

Elitist workers have for decades been leaving the cries of the senator class unheeded rage-cry

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

michael-laugh totally got me for a minute comrade

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes, hello, I'd like to order 1 life please.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Personally I wanted 3 weeks per month off

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

This is the correct way to answer.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

Some people like to pretend chains are just another type of weighted blanket.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

Brainwashed to go against their own best interests.

And fear they will be outperformed by those who don't mind being slaves.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

The other 64% believe that they will be be millionaires any day now, just one more scratch ticket!

edit: wow, I'm gonna leave my drunk math as stands

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (11 children)

I lived in Europe for the first 30 years of my life, and the only time I got all of August off was when I was in school.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Where in Europe do you live?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

People with school children usually get preferential treatment for the summer months and obviously not all people can take their holidays the same time.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Not author of the comment here, but I've lived in Italy and France and also never had a full month off since my school days.

But it's because of my personal choice to avoid spending all my unpaid leave in one go (and in the most expensive and crowded time of the year, too). Not for the lack of that possibility.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (9 children)
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[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago

The 34% unfortunately includes the entirety of the ruling class

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

YES! Oh my God it is a tragedy that vacations are proudly seen as a thing of the past here.

Imagine living in, say, California and taking a week off just to go surfing or explore some of the national parks or smaller towns. Hell, imagine a country that doesn't try to gatekeep its youth from walkable cities that make it possible to make and have friends to share those vacations with. I'm sorry but, the people in charge are complete misanthropes that want to force their miserable loneliness on others.

I've said it before and I will say it again, the US is the anti-fun country and it's the fault of the puritan WASPs who have no taste in anything.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm really surprised because it means 34% don't want a month off work.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago

Corporations be like haha get back to work slaves

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The only language the capitalist ruling class understands is violence.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

The average American is lucky to get 11 vacation days from their employer each year.

Me with 0

joker-gaming

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