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[–] [email protected] 96 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Biden is old. Trump is a traitor. There. Fixed it for you.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Trump would be a traitor AND the oldest elected president ever.*

Biden was the oldest president ever elected. Trump is 3 years younger than Biden. If Trump theoretically wins, he'd be the oldest elected president ever beating Biden by a year.

Thank God he will be in prison. I just hope a judge finally revokes his bond after making jokes about fleeing to Russia to get pegged by Putin.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 11 months ago (15 children)

I will take old over corrupt any day.

Next?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's absolutely insane that this is even being debated. Biden could keel over tomorrow and he would still make the better president.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Trump is all four. I wish we wouldn't turn every election into a years long grueling horserace.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Two out of four is still pretty bad...

We shouldn't be satisfied with "better than trump" because that's roughly 99% of the population.

Unfortunately we don't get a choice, and the people not letting us have a choice are too stupid to realize why voter turnout is constantly shit.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

We shouldn’t be satisfied with “better than trump” because that’s roughly 99% of the population.

Spend some more time with his voter base and you'll bump that figure down a bit

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

You're basically right; They're actually smart, but not in a nice way and not that smart. First past the post voting essentially guarantees this dynamic; duopoly a la Good Cop Bad Cop.

They know they can skate by on that, but they're not afraid enough of the fact that the insurrection has not ended, and will only escalate. Their Bad Cop isn't a method actor, but an actual bad cop who already has a drop piece with their name on it.

Fascism has never yet been defeated without an actual fight. This time isn't different.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Right, Biden is an old and decrepit 80 while Trump is a young and virile 77.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago

He's quite spry. Watch how he runs from the law.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Biden is old. Trump is old, corrupt, and a traitor.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 11 months ago (10 children)

If you don't vote Trump will likely win because old people do vote and most will vote for Trump. So get out and vote against Trump at least.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This old fuck will never vote for that Putin-sucking, diaper-filling-while-denying-it, corrupt asshole of a traitor, but I agree with your message.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 11 months ago (13 children)

Can we please get a non-fascist under 50?

Please?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (11 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (3 children)

She won't meet the minimum requirements before 2024.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Minimum is being 35 and she'll hit that 23 days before the election:

October 13th, 1989.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Sure she does. The issue is that she won't run against a sitting Democratic president.

My hope is that she runs in 4 years. I can't think of anyone who would even come close to being as good a candidate or president.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

John Stewart is over 50, but he would be a great option IMHO.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago

Trump is just about as old as Biden. A distinction without a difference.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

Neither of those words really need to be in quotes.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I wonder if Biden's age helps him to some extent, since if that's the only bad thing you can think of while the other guy is "corrupt" that doesn't seem so bad to me. If he wasn't old maybe you'd see the "typical politician" criticisms like "phony" or something.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (8 children)

Not even a little bit.

Biden's age isn't just a number. The guy really acts very, very old.

Even when he gave the speech in response to the court striking down student loans, when he was all fired up, and announcing some pretty powerful policies... even then he just seemed so sleepy and low energy.

Trump, for all his many, many, many, many disqualifying flaws, still seems feisty and energetic in comparison.

That said, Bernie Sanders is even older, but I'd vote for him even if he were on his deathbed. Bernie Sanders' corpse would do a better job representing the people than would any Republican, and 90 percent of Democrats.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

I'm not saying it's not a bad thing, but it crowds out some other bad thing that people would feel about him instead.

Sure Trump seems more energetic, he would win in a how-old-do-they-seem competition, but in a who-should-be-president competition I'd rather have someone slow in his competence vs energetic in his corruption.

Probably the next-worst thing wouldn't be that Biden's corrupt but conceivably it could be worse than just being old.

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