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It's a big question. I know.

But given that we have the source code to Android (AOSP) and the community to collaborate with, couldn't we just create an entire ROM filled with the necessary applications and utilities, all open source, and with modern UI?

It'll take a shit load of time, and effort. Definitely. But maybe if we banded together? A unified OS running only open source software, with the option for Google Services via something like MicroG, so that we don't need to worry.

I'm no expert. I'm just floating an idea. But I'd love to know if this is possible, step-by-step...

Edit: I know custom ROMs are a thing. I use one. I'm just saying, what if we go ahead and make an open source ecosystem that runs under the same project, so that there's a set of services and apps that are free, open source and non-corporate.

Edit2: I forgot the Lineage project exists. Nevermind πŸ€¦πŸ»β€β™‚οΈ. Let's just try to support it. πŸ™ŒπŸΌπŸ™ŒπŸΌπŸ™ŒπŸΌ

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You mean /e/OS ? Or GrapheneOS ?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I haven't used these ROMs... Do they have their own apps? I've used Lineage... They have some nifty apps that look cool, but they're still being developed.

Actually, now that I think of it, I forgot the Lineage project exists. Nevermind πŸ€¦πŸ»β€β™‚οΈ

[–] RvTV95XBeo 24 points 1 year ago

I've used Lineage... They have some nifty apps that look cool, but they're still being developed.

That's the point of these big open source projects, they're always being developed. LineageOS is turning 7 this year, and it's a fork of CyanogenMod, which started in 2009. It's a mature software by most definitions, but still in active development.

e/OS and GrapheneOS are just privacy focused forks of AOSP, with a focus on removing all traces of Google from the OS.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, they have some app of their own, and other app that are from other devs. but the android ecosystem is one of the worst anyway design wise. Every manufacturer do their own design app devs use Material design or the new Material You, it's not great, even linux phone on GNOME or KDE have a better GUI ecosystem.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's just a matter of preference, I quite like material design.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Me too. I like how minimalistic it is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

It feels substantial, unlike the transparency and blurriness in iOS.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This would be easier if more hardware was easier to put custom OSs on. For example, my phone is dumb and doesn't have an unlockable bootloader, so i'm stuck with android forever on it. For devices you can actually work on, lineage and graphene are cool projects that i'd love to see embrace the sort of holistic experience you're talking about~

[–] sharkfucker420 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Same πŸ˜” As soon as this one shatters or stops working in 10 years I'll get on that does work

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is exactly what I did. I hat a poco X3 NFC. I did install lineageOS on it which was a absolute pain due to MIUI and their unlocking method. A few weeks ago it flung off the motorcycle on the highway in Germany. got my self a google pixel and instantly installed GOS on it. and i am loving it it works great is secure and privacy focused. i do not miss any google services at all.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I found a great bargain on a refurbished Pixel 6 identical to the one I owned, and I can safely say I prefer GOS to an extreme degree. I am slowly degoogling my other pixel and backing up to swap it to GOS as well.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

At this point, I'd be more than willing to use a Linux based distro that's a full-on desktop distro scaled down for the size of a phone screen and made to work with a variety of phone hardware and just use something like Waydroid or whatever would be better for the few games and apps I actually use daily.

Though I feel we are very far away from that since the closest we have that I know of is Ubuntu Touch, which I don't know whether it's even still worked on or not. I'd definitely devote time or funds if I had either the know-how to make the dream a reality or disposable income to help fund it, though.

Sure there are AOSP ROMs that provide privacy and that do their best to remove all traces of gΓΈΓΈgl€ exist, but at this point I feel like we need more options like a desktop distro like experience for mobile. That's just my unimportant 2Β’ on the subject, though.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

There is huge progress on the Mobile Linux front and Ubuntu Touch is still very much a thing but all of it is far from ready. The majore issue with phones is their closed source drivers and hellscape of vendor specific kernels tho, if they had mainline Linux kernels vendors could update them forever with relatively little effort, custom ROMs wouldn't need devixe specific ports and we could use much of the current mobile Linux progress accross a wide range of devices!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Typing this from my OnePlus 6T running postmarketOS. I have Waydroid installed. It works quite well. The Linux phone experience is getting consistently better all the time, but I have been keeping a spare Android phone around for calls as calls still have issues with Linux phone (missing audio sometimes, no Bluetooth handsfree support).

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

there is fdroid and other FOSS repositories.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Would be great for open source infotainment systems. Hard to get away from Android auto or Carplay

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

As people mention, there's a bunch of them. I'll also add the Simple Mobile Tools phone project. And Divest OS.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Running project zephyrus as my daily driver it is based on CLO project.

Better apps

Chromite - google chrome

Mull - firefox

YouTube revanced - stock youtube app

Sadly can't replace whatsapp with anything.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Beeper is free now and it's native chat is Matrix, but it also supports whatsapp, iMessage, and Signal along with Google RCS. It doesn't get rid of your WhatsApp entirely (unless you can switch your friends to Matrix) but it does seem like a good solution to at least consolidate all that stuff.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Interesting I'll look into this. Thanks. WhatsApp became a necessity here in my country almost everyone uses it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

A list of recommended apps to replace the stock/common Google ones would also be good.

E.g, best app to replace Google Maps, Inbox, Drive, Calendar, Chrome, Authenticator, Gboard, Keep, Photos, Phone/Contacts, Lens, YouTube, etc.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Get /e/ os and fdroid

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago