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U.S. Judge Tanya S. Chutkan has scheduled Donald Trump’s D.C. trial on charges of attempting to overturn the 2020 presidential election for March 4, 2024. A separate hearing is being held in Atlanta to determine whether Trump’s former chief of staff, Mark Meadows, can move his election-related indictment from state to federal court.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Trump's trial date is the day before super Tuesday, when 16 states hold their primaries. 8 states will have votes before super Tuesday. Unless one of the other Republican clowns gets their act together, the odds are very good Trump could have the nomination locked up before the trial really gets underway. He likely will be convicted before the July Republican Convention, maybe even sentenced by then.

Republicans will have to either go into the general election with a convicted candidate at the top of the ticket (possibly jailed!) or try use delegate procedures to replace him at the convention.

Trying to replace Trump at the convention will make Trump and his supporters very mad. Supporters who have already shown themselves to be violent. Supporters who will already be pissed off about the witch hunt convictions, who will then have a bunch of "rino delegates" trying to overturn the will of the Republican voters. Trump is not likely to step gracefully aside for the good of the party, especially since at that point winning the presidency will be his only ticket to staying out of jail. He's going to whip his supporters up like we've never seen before. Why not? What does he have to lose?

Oh, July will probably be another recording breaking month of heat because we'll have el nino on top of climate change. Trump supporters are going to be mad at the rigged justice system, mad at their political party, and they will be hot, and all gathered in Milwaukee which has very lax gun laws. You seeing the picture I'm painting? The Dem 1968 convention is going to look like a love fest in comparison. Enjoy your last months of calm.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Trump could have the nomination locked up

I see what you did there.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

This is really uncharted territory. In some states, you can't even be on the ballot as a felon without being pardoned or having your record expunged, as another comment points out, which means some of those states might scramble to change their laws, while others will simply... not have Trump on the ballot.

The picture you paint of the 2024 RNC convention is simultaneously fascinating and horrifying, like a train derailment in slow motion.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Being from Milwaukee I truly hope you are wrong about riots. We're a good city that has done so much to better out image over the past decade.

I refuse to live in fear though, and will stay optimistic that we can hold it together.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ouch, big loss for the giant orange baboon.. Didn't his lawyers suggest 2026 as a date for this?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yup, this is 2 years earlier than they wanted

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Hahaha, get fucked, Mr. 45

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

This seemed to be popular information when I posted it (ahem) "elsewhere". Thought it might be welcome to have here.

If you're trying to keep track of where we're at in the Trump prosecutions:

Updated 8/28/2023

Georgia
13 state felonies
Election Interference
Investigation
Indictment
Arrest <- You Are Here
All 19 defendants have surrendered.
Trial - Fani Willis has now requested a trial date of October 23rd after originally asking for a trial date of 3/4/2024, one day before Super Tuesday..
A judge has now confirmed an October 23rd trial date for Kenneth Chesebro. But ONLY for Chesebro as he requested an expedited trial.
Sidney Powell has also requested an expedited trial, no ruling on that yet.
Conviction
Sentencing

Washington, D.C.
4 federal felonies
January 6th Election Interference
Investigation
Indictment
Arrest <- You Are Here
Trial - March 4th, 2024, one day before Super Tuesday primaries.
Conviction
Sentencing

New York
34 state felonies
Stormy Daniels Payoff
Investigation
Indictment
Arrest <- You Are Here
Trial - March 25th, 2024
Conviction
Sentencing

Florida
40 federal felonies
Top Secret Documents charges
Investigation
Indictment
Original indictment was for 37 felonies.
3 new felonies were added on July 27, 2023.
Arrest <- You Are Here
Trial - May 20, 2024
Conviction
Sentencing

Other grand juries, such as for the documents at Bedminster, or the Arizona fake electors, have not been announced.

The E. Jean Carroll trial for sexual assault and defamation where Trump was found liable and ordered to pay $5 million before immediately defaming her again resulting in a demand for $10 million is not listed as it's a civil case and not a crimimal one. That trial date is currently set for January 15th, the same day as the Iowa caucus.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Arizona is starting its investigations/trials too. Where do we stand there?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

No grand jury yet, once that's impaneled, I'll post it!

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4095890-arizona-steps-up-criminal-probe-of-gop-in-2020-election-report/

"Mayes’s chief deputy, Dan Barr, told The Post that the investigation is still in its “fact-gathering” stage.

“This is something we’re not going to go into thinking, ‘Maybe we’ll get a conviction,’ or, ‘Maybe we have a pretty good chance,’” he said. “This has to be ironclad shut.”"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Thank you! Keep us updated!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

That’s a fantastic breakdown. Thank you!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

The audacity to try to push it until AFTER the elections, given the charges, was ludicrous.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I foresee another 1860 Election with Conservatives splitting their votes between two people.

Which means Trump would be convicted and labeled a felon months before the July Convention in Houston. Most red states require the governor to pardon or expunge a felon before they could run for office. That means Trump likely would not appear on any blue state ballot and several traditional republican governors would likely not pardon him.

My thinking is Trump gets on that Ballot in Ohio (17), Indiana (11), Missouri (10), Tennessee (11), Arkansas (6), Alabama (9), South Carolina (9), Mississippi (6), Texas (40), Idaho (4), Wyoming (3), North Dakota (3), South Dakota (3), Nebraska, West Virginia (4), and Florida (30).

That gives him at most 171 Electoral College votes, 99 short of being elected.

Alaska (3), Iowa (6), Kansas (6), Kentucky (8), Louisiana (8), Montana (4), Nevada (6), North Carolina (16), Oklahoma (7), Utah (6)

64 electoral votes go to the actual GOP candidate.

Arizona (11), California (54), Colorado (10), Connecticut (7), Delaware (3), DC (3), Georgia (16), Hawaii (4), Illinois (19), Maine (4), Maryland (10), Massachusetts (11), Michigan (15), Minnesota (10), Nevada (6), New Hampshire (4), New Jersey (14), New Mexico (5), New York (28), Oregon (8), Pennsylvania (19), Rhode Island (4), Vermont (3), Virginia (13), Washington (12), and Wisconsin (10)

Biden takes 303 electoral college votes and wins.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Arizona resident here. Don't we have 11?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

It does, note sure why it exported with only 3. I'll enter in the information again and see what's up. It does look like it counted 11 votes.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


U.S. District Judge Tanya S. Chutkan has scheduled Donald Trump’s D.C. trial on charges of attempting to overturn the 2020 presidential election for March 4, 2024.

A separate hearing is being held in Atlanta to determine whether Trump’s former chief of staff, Mark Meadows, can move his election-related indictment from state to federal court.

Trump is a frontrunner in the Republican 2024 presidential contest, and the D.C. trial’s starting date is the day before the Super Tuesday primaries.


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