Ukraine

Yeah I think Hexbear is the only big server sh.itjust.works defederated with, probably for the best. ML is bad but there's enough other people to water it down I suppose

yeah duh, thats why we block the redfash triad

That's why we add all tankie instances to our block lists.

Some people there post burning flags of other countries and want the total destruction of them... "Death to country XY" being upvoted is as normal there as using toothpaste... Mods seem to support that and ban people who criticize it.

If we had only those people on the planet, there would be nothing but war.

Ukrainians have the same problem with neo-Nazis as other ex-Soviet countries.

Holodomor is a bit of a fuzzy matter, it's picking a part of the more wide scale events relating to Ukraine and calling it genocide of Ukrainian people, while genocide involves intention to wipe out an ethnic group.

This was more of Stalin's USSR treating people as expendable and hunger as acceptable when he needed the resources to build heavy industries for the military. Most of the grain producing areas of the USSR were in Ukraine and south of Russia, which is also where most of the victims were, because grain was taken by force according to planned norm and to fake reports (as it happens in such systems, administrators overreporting gains and underreporting losses).

So I somewhat feel strange when people talk of it like genocide example, but people arguing against that are usually worse, so let it be.

Anyway, the point of this comment was - those people don't even think of such things, they act purely on vibes. Most of Soviet propaganda was intended for people literate in the first-second generation, it relied on vibes even more than, say, Nazi German propaganda or Western propaganda of that time and of our time. That allows it to work on people very far from Soviet reality or knowledge of USSR's history. (Of course, there were more intelligent levels of Soviet propaganda, they seem almost fully forgotten, include marxist dialectics, optimism of the future, dreams of a united peaceful planet of intelligent people using their lives for learning and creation, and no war and violence. Would be weird to expect tankies to be familiar with anything of that.)

You can't reason with people acting on vibes. Your comments' vibes for them are predefined, you don't affect them.

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