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[-] [email protected] 75 points 10 months ago

My wife got sick as a dog after eating chocolate chip cookie dough. She spent a whole day going between bed and the bathroom. Strangely enough, she still eats raw cookie dough. Having gone through it with her, I don’t even like the fake/safe cookie dough in ice cream.

[-] [email protected] 56 points 10 months ago

I need sleep. It took me a while to realize that your wife is not a dog.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I don't think getting violently ill is going to stop me either in tbf.

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[-] [email protected] 61 points 10 months ago

Looked up a recipe and it seems pretty easy to make non-raw edible cookie dough. Cook the flour in the microwave, and then substitute out the eggs with extra butter and milk.

Life your life, OP.

[-] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago

Leave the eggs in, you'll be fine as long as the flour is good tbh

[-] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

Or get some pasteurized eggs and have at.it for extra safety

[-] [email protected] 29 points 10 months ago

I've always found the safe to eat raw cookie dough to not be very good, nothing compared with real cookie dough. But the fake stuff is all I could find that wouldn't risk me getting ill. One day I was at a local grocery store and couldn't find my stupid fake cookie dough, and the worker said they didn't care it any more, but he was pretty sure Pillbury changed the recipe of their take and bake cookie dough so it can be eaten raw, or baked first.

This proved to be true, and dangerous. It takes TOO good, it's problematic:

Pillsbury™ Chocolate Chip Cookie Dough Tub 76ct

[-] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

Can confirm. Do not, I repeat, do not buy that tub. You will eat the entire tub.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

Luckily, I only bought a tube, and thank deity I didn't see a tube there. But I have to tell you, one full tube consumed over the course of a weekend, by me, and individual, and no one else.... You reach the end of that tube and there are no lies to tell ones self "Other people helped, it wasn't just you". Nope, just you, you alone ate that tube.

Just don't buy it, it isn't worth the cost...

[-] starman2112 6 points 10 months ago

I thought the safe to eat cookie dough was just made with sterilized flour and pasteurized eggs. Shouldn't it taste exactly the same?

[-] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

I would have thought they'd leave out the baking soda? Gives it that tang..

[-] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

I'm vegan, mine tastes exactly the same with or without sterilized flour.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

we found an orange tub of chocolate cookie "dough" that had to be refrigerated and it was divine. I wish I could remember the brand now :(

[-] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Sometimes corporations actually save the world

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[-] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago

Yeah there's two issues with it. Both the raw flour and the raw egg. I'd say the raw flour is the bigger threat to your health.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago

I’m not sure that’s the case anymore. The specific salmonella that can invade chicken reproductive system is getting more prevelant.

The estimated prevalence of Salmonella in egg white is 6.99% with a 95% confidence interval between 2.44% and 11.54%.

https://www.fsis.usda.gov/sites/default/files/media_file/2020-07/Baseline-Raw-Liquid-Eggs_0.pdf

Essentially, if you get an 18 pack of eggs, there’s a good chance one of the eggs has salmonella.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

The study says 34% of whole eggs tested positive for salmonella which is insane.

The CDC says 1 on 20 000. We use raw eggs in many recipes, lots of restaurants still make home made mayo. Not to mention the thousands who eat them raw everyday in smoothies like me. I pass an 18 pack of raw eggs in a week.

I'm guessing only certain strains of salmonella actually make you sick or the study is just shit because that's the only way it makes sense.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Hmm... my family demands I make French Silk pie for the holidays and that involves 4 raw eggs per pie. Always knew there was a risk but I've never had any trouble in 20 years. Wonder how long our luck will last.

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[-] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

If you're ever offered Russian eggnog shots, decline.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

You get a double whammy with raw flour, as it can contain both salmonella and e.coli

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[-] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago

Most salmonella exposure will cause mild symptoms like a day of runny stools. If you eat raw dough with any frequency, you have almost certainly been exposed to it and experienced mild symptoms. It's a much bigger risk for people with weak immune systems.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago

This will massively depend on what country you're in. It's pretty safe to eat raw egg in a lot of places.

[-] SharkEatingBreakfast 33 points 10 months ago

Fun fact: the risk is more from the flour than it is the egg.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Thanks for the useful information!

[-] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

There is a risk yes, more so than many other foods we eat, how much of a risk is impossible to generalize and depends on too many factors. Cooking significantly reduces the risk, so the safest thing is to just say you shouldn't eat it raw because no one wants to be held responsible nor live with the guilt if you die of food poisoning from eating cookie dough at their suggestion. No one can actually prevent you from doing it, and whether you want to depends on your own assessment of the risks in any particular instance, and your risk tolerance.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Where does the salmonella come from, though? Is it in the raw flour, or the raw eggs? If you know you want to eat the cookie dough , there's no point adding eggs at all - they don't bring any flavour. As for the flour, it doesn't bring flavour but it's probably important to the texture of the dough.

So what happens if you pour the flour onto a sheet pan and bake it at 300-325F for 30 mins all by itself? Would that kill everything in there that needs killing, so you can then make cookie dough that's safe to eat?

[-] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

You actually can make edible cookie dough with toasted flour and pasteurized eggs.

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[-] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago

Just microwave or bake the flour then make cookie dough normally.

There is a much higher risk of getting salmonella from raw flour than from raw egg, since store bought eggs are pasteurized and washed (in USA/Canada).

[-] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Eggs in the shell in the US are not pasteurized unless specifically labeled, only about 3% of them, but they are washed. Any egg product out of the shell, like in a milk carton type container is pasteurized.

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[-] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago

Yep, me as a small child.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

People do get salmonella from eating raw egg. Egg is often an ingredient in cookie mix, so SOME cookie dough puts you at risk, and the egg-free ones don’t. Check the label carefully.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

depends on where you live as salmonella prevalence varies a lot by country

[-] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Just make it yourself. Lightly roast the flour to sterilize it and wash the eggs thoroughly before cracking them open to reduce the risk.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

I've never heard of washing eggs and before and it is controversial: https://backyardpoultry.iamcountryside.com/eggs-meat/how-to-wash-fresh-eggs-its-safer-not-to/

TIL, in the US eggs are washed making eggs more prone to infections and lower shelf life.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

American eggs have a longer shelf life, but it's because they're refrigerated rather than left out at room temp.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

if you refrigerate european eggs they can last very long also. Just anecdotal evidence but i have never encountered a rotten egg and i have cooked a lot of eggs

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[-] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

My brother got salmonella from working under the porch when we had chickens

[-] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Just use pasteurized eggs when you make cookie dough. That should keep the chances low

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