You can just take ur melatonin from a bottle. Store bought is fine too ?!
this post was submitted on 19 May 2025
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Well there's a difference between refusing to believe the science and completely understanding the science and just continuing as you were anyway
Just because I know what the science says doesn't mean the science lines up with how I choose to ignore the hellscape we live in.
If it helps, the science of phone screens disrupting sleep patterns is sketchy at best.
To test the theory, BYU psychology professor Chad Jensen and researchers from the Cincinnati Children’s Hospital Medical Center compared the sleep outcomes of individuals in three categories: those who used their phone at night with the Night Shift function turned on, those who used their phone at night without Night Shift and those who did not use a smartphone before bed at all.
“In the whole sample, there were no differences across the three groups,” Jensen said. “Night Shift is not superior to using your phone without Night Shift or even using no phone at all.”
Actually they found higher sleep quality in some groups.
The article also doesn't mention how long the study was and only looked at 18-24 years old.
The main issue with light exposure are long term effects, such as increased rush of hormone-depebdant cancers.
We don't have a lot of long term study, but we know melatonin production is affected.
For the record, I did my PhD on light pollution, and while not a health expert, I have assisted to multiple talks at scientific conferences on the subject.
Can you talk more about melatonin, hormone dependent cancers, and light exposure? Also, what about shift work and rotating schedules?
I use my phone 16 hours a day, and sleep wonderfully the other 8 (when my kids let me, which is never)
Oblig. "My anecdote is not evidence"
Hah, jokes on you Science, my circadian rhythm has been fucked for my entire life and I'm also old enough to have had a childhood where cell phones didn't even have screens on them.
Most people who say "I believe science" don't know anything about the scientific process, how it works or why. They use "science" as a cheap substitute for "god" when they are atheists / agnostics but still feel the need to "believe". Science doesn't need believing.
Bold to assume I care about preserving my circadian rhythm
There isn't a single hour of the day I haven't both fallen asleep during and woken up during at least once in the last three months
Do you ever think about how if we actually cared enough to make a phone that was just as easy for a blind person to use, it would also be a phone that any person who isn’t blind could use just before bed without any of these other issues?
I've had a shitty rhythm since long before phones.
My circadian rhythm is abstract jazz. I've slept less than 5 hours in the last 72.
I mean I understand the science and believe it’s accurate, I just don’t care. Kind of like alcohol.
I believe in it, I just gave up
Normal sleeping patterns are for the weak of heart.
Edit- it's 3:12 a.m. and I have two screens
I don't keep anything that connects to the internet by my bed
Science has always been like this: "Don't do [insert any thing I regularly do] or you are fucked".