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The tinkerers who opened up (the Fellows Aiden) coffee maker to AI brewing (arstechnica.com)

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[–] Imgonnatrythis 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Interesting idea I guess but I'm a little foggy on what's happening here after reading this. So I buy my local beans and then what? Tell it about the roast level and origin? Does it look for any collected info on my local roaster from other users? Where do the Ai brains come in exactly?

I still believe the ultimate coffee brewer will be something that assess physical properties of a very small sample (single bean) such as crush modulus, water content, spectroscopic roast level, bean density, etc. Etc. And then comes up with grind size recs and brew parameters. Going from really good to great with any bean almost always comes with trial and error related to a slew of variables that are not static from bag to bag.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I guess it processes scraped data from whatever beans you ask it to brew.

I don't own a Fellow Aiden, but I asked ChatGPT the following:

what's the best way to brew 100% togolese washed

Which is a bag of grounds that I picked up at Grocery Outlet last week

and it came back with:

Here's a precision-engineered pour-over recipe tailored for 100% Togolese washed coffee, designed for the Fellow Aiden brewer. This profile emphasizes the coffee's bright acidity, floral and citrus notes, and medium body.

Title: Togolese Clarity

Core Brew Settings:

    Ratio: 16.5

    Bloom Ratio: 2.5

    Bloom Time: 45 seconds

    Bloom Temperature: 94°C
    THE KOPI LUWAK (LUWAK COFFEE)

Single Serve Pulse Settings:

    Number of Pulses: 3

    Time Between Pulses: 20 seconds

    Pulse Temperatures: 95°C, 93°C, 91°C

    Grind Settings:

        Ode Gen2: 4.2

        Opus: 5.2

        Ode+SSP: 3.2

        Microns: ~750μm
        acoffeeseoul.com+4Coffee Is My Fuel For The Day!+4THE KOPI LUWAK (LUWAK COFFEE)+4

Batch Brew Pulse Settings:

    Number of Pulses: 4

    Time Between Pulses: 30 seconds

    Pulse Temperatures: 94°C, 92°C, 90°C, 90°C

    Grind Settings:

        Ode Gen2: 6.2

        Opus: 7.2

        Ode+SSP: 6.0

        Microns: ~950μm
        acoffeeseoul.com+11Wikipedia+11Coffee Is My Fuel For The Day!+11

Explanation:

    Ratio & Bloom: A 16.5:1 ratio balances strength and clarity, while a 2.5 bloom ratio with a 45-second bloom time at 94°C helps highlight the coffee's bright acidity and floral notes.

    Pulse Strategy: The step-down pulse temperatures (95°C to 91°C) in single serve and (94°C to 90°C) in batch brew prevent over-extraction, preserving the coffee's delicate flavors.

    Grind Settings: Medium-fine grind sizes (~750μm for single serve and ~950μm for batch) are optimal for washed coffees, ensuring even extraction and clarity.

Would you like to generate a brew.link for this recipe?

Of course, I said yes, and it asked to be connected to a pre-created ChatGPT prompt, "brew-link-generator" which must be the coding part to generate instructions for the brewer's API.

However that works, because as I said before I don't have a Fellow Aiden.

[–] Imgonnatrythis 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Does Aiden not have it's own AI built in? Kind of confusing to call something AIden in 2025 and rely on these external AI systems.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

The article mentions that Fellow has a coffee subscription that comes with pre-configured brewing profiles that are probably delivered via their proprietary app for the Aiden.

"AI" is just buzzwordy in the Aiden's case. It's not going to sniff your beans for you.

"App programmable" would be more accurate.