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The problem I have with this thinking is that people think Trump caused this and that the fascist problem will go away if he does.
He is a symptom. We need to fix the cause. I'm not saying I have all the answers, but going back to 'the old way of solving problems' and not changing anything will just lead to more fascists.
People are literally infected with his BS. Removing the main disease gives others a fighting chance to provide treatment with a possible cure.
I think it’s more that they see Trump as a confirmation of their world view.
They feel scared and threatened, they seek evidence to confirm their feelings, and Trump provides them with the reassuring narrative that affirms their world view.
If people could get help dealing with the things that they’re actually afraid of struggling with they wouldn’t be as engaged with fear mongering.
Many people agree that Trump is the head of the snake. The amount of complete lies is remarkable. I'm on the side that believes, somewhat, that the cult spell will greatly diminish if he were completely out of the picture.
The Trump cult will dissipate after he's gone. But the conservative virus will absolutely still be there. They will leech on to the next Republican scum that rises through the ranks. And now that Trump has opened Pandora's box, all the scum in that party will rise to the occasion. Trump has proven that the presidency can be a massive cash cow now. People with lots and lots of money and no morals will use that wealth to run another disgusting propaganda campaign, it'll fool stupid Americans, and we'll have Trump copycats in the Oval Office again.
Conservatives cannot do anything but vote Republican. It is in their programming.
The cure is ranked choice voting and repealing citizens united, oh and kick Rupert Murdocks bitch ass "news" network out of the country.
Either way, the fix is going to involve getting rid of Trump.
Still I got down voted lots for suggesting merely banning Afd might not be the, eh, total solution to the problem. 🤷🏼♀️
IMO there are two big, fundamental and inherent problems we're not dealing with.
1 - Democrats don't want to do anything, because they want to run against Republicans on this in the fall, midterms and in 2028.
2 - The folks who voted for Trump in the first place get their news and world view from Fox News and the GOP-aligned media. They aren't telling the same story.
Let's look at the fucking headlines from Fox News right now:
We probably shouldn't have let Fox News fester and metastasize all these years.
you're forgetting about point #3. all you need to do is watch the commercials on major us 'news' stations to figure out who tells the news.
A lot of very smart people want to get rid of Trump. The main problem is the hundreds of opportunists riding on his coattails, who are currently in charge of Congress and won't let anything happen to him because it will affect their own fortunes. Hell, some of them are just sitting silently in committee meetings because they can't speak in Trump's favor without committing perjury, so they refuse to respond to questions (even though that's their job). Unless Bonespurs has his final Big Mac Attack while in office, I think we're stuck with him until 2026, when some of his Congressional minions might lose their seats and his lock on the US government will loosen a little.
Do you really think there's anything short of violence that will will cause him to leave office?
Severe medical events. But I think the most realistic hope is if enough people help replace some MAGA congresspeople in 2026 so they can stonewall the rest of his term.
"unprecedented," "deeply concerned," "alarmed,"
words have lost all meaning due to be in every other fucking headline
Personally, I think we should skip the home.
This loser didn't start forgetting his wife's name or forget to wipe his ass after shitting on a regular basis.
He's a fucking traitor who is tanking our country in a myriad of ways and violating the fuck out of our Constitution. A much more....severe punishment is in order.
Put your money where your mouth is, Letterman. You’re worth almost a half billion, so what are you risking other that being just another rich guy telling others to do the heavy lifting while you stay nice and safe?
Sad to say that in a fascist regime, even speaking up like this puts a target on Letterman's back. Trump is thin-skinned and petty.
Moving the average at "something is wrong" towards "let's do something about it" is a step in the right direction.
We have to be victimized because the alternative is armed revolt and putting his fat orange neck under the guillotine. I’m sorry, but Americans aren’t suffering enough en-masse to be motivated enough to do that yet. I wish it weren’t so, but we’re stuck with it for now.
Give it a year.
I'm assuming some of the Trumptards with a few brain cells still bouncing around will start looking at their grocery receipts and not be able to reconcile it with what their Daddy has been saying.
"Hey, dat man lied to me."
Maybe getting evicted will open some eyes.
We're only 3-4 months in.
You'd be surprised at what people will put up with. I say we aren't close even if we gave it 3 or 4 years.
They will bury their head in the sand so hard they'll come out the other side of the planet before they'll annoy they were duped.
The idea of armed revolt always concerns me because of countries like N. Korea, Iraq, and more recently Afghanistan.
All of these countries had periods of (relative) progressive tendencies before their current iterations. Yes, I'm aware Afghanistan was still rough 2001-2021 but there was still a generation of women going to school and getting educated and that concept just simply ceased to exist.
And all of these people just kinda...watched it happen. And did nothing about it.
I'm not sure, as an American, why we'd be any different. We have alcohol, iphones, air conditioning, fast food, and video games. No one is risking their creature comforts at this point.
a lot of people myself believe that democrats at this point are as much part of the problem, they do what the lobbyist and ultrarich want and totally ignore the voters.
so why fight half the country to only replace trump with a scum like schumer ?
if dnc was worth voting for then trump would never got elected. instead we have gotten lesser evil junk from them for 3 election in a row, the lesser evil that shamelessly funded a genocide when people have been struggling to buy groceries.
There are lots of threads that make up this tapestry of shit.
But it seems we could cut (or at least weaken) them all at once by banning lobbying.
From over 100 years ago. Humans never really seem to change all that much.
The Republican Party dies as soon as that happens. Every Republican knows it. That's why they will fight to keep it from happening and grift the situation as long as they can.
Fascism does not outlive the guy at its center. It can't. Anybody who could step up to take control would have been a threat to the old leader's position. The leader, therefore, has to make sure his people are loyal to him personally, and that tends to select for people who aren't very competent and are incapable of fermenting the same sort of faux populist up swell.
The republicans realized it yesterday when he took the plane. That was the nail in the coffin of their party.
That moment when even they admit if the dems did this; reps would go wild.
Presidency isn’t a business that closes once the term is up. It’s a turn in the game. They kept forgetting that until the plane happened.
That was the nail in the coffin of their party.
Thing is, I heard that multiple times during his first term.
I'm not saying you are wrong, maybe you are right. But I'm not so easily convinced after all the shit he consistently gets away with. There were people on their covid death beds who were still anti-mask/vax and pro-Trump.
If people are still stubbornly holding onto their beliefs as they directly face their own mortality more or less because of them, its hard to imagine a bribe being the red line.
The republicans realized it yesterday when he took the plane. That was the nail in the coffin of their party.
I'll believe that when they do something about him
In Germany we say "Der Klügere gibt nach, bis die Dummen die Welt reagieren". You could translate it with "A wise man changes his mind, a fool never will until fools rule the world."
He’s pretty much describing all three sides of the problem and pretending only one of them matters.
When lettermen calls someone a goon you know he hates them.
How is this statement any different than anyone else's "whining" about the goon? It puts me in mind of a scene in Monty Python's Life of Brian.
We've go to get up off our asses and stop just talking about it
"...think of the solution, not the problem. If your mind was filled only with thoughts of why you were going to lose, then you couldn't think of how to win." - Richard Rahl
Since Letterman is a millionaire I vote he starts the revolution, instead of trying to convince us to do all the work.
It's even worse when they downplay it and act like nothing's wrong.
Hank hill “do i look like I know what a JPEG is”
There's nothing you can do, the system was made so you can't just remove a guy you don't like. It's up to Congress to impeach and remove or the 25th amendment, but that just gets you Vance.
Have the day you voted for, especially the protest-non-voters.
The funny thing is what he's offering here is also just words.
You're going to need more than just gradually escalating calls to action to fix this problem.
I know that I also am just offering words but I'm not worth half a billion dollars with a broad domestic and global audience nor am I American.
I hope he puts his money where his mouth is and goes even a step further.
We're should be past the point of people telling each other to do something about it.