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Tech leaders emerge behind plan to build new city near California air base — Group has spent nearly $1 billion to buy thousands of acres northeast of San Francisco::Group has spent nearly $1 billion to buy thousands of acres northeast of San Francisco

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The sooner they fuck off to mars the better .

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Monkey's paw: they're on Mars but their machines are still on Earth subjugating dissent while the planet is stripmined.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or, they have the greatest, most technologically advanced space navy, with the Mariner Valley full of Chinese-Texans who all speak with the Texan drawl.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The work must continue.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Elysium plot (except for space station instead of Mars).

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Are there bears there already, or should we import some just to be safe?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If SF did not have strict zoning and NIMBY’s it would look like Hong Kong. The demand for more housing on limited land is strong.

As long as it is a decently dense development that is walkable and has public transportation (subways are far cheaper if open cut) then I say build away.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

This isn't all that close to SF. It's about 45 min- 1 hour away. I doubt they are going to alter existing highways that have the comforting title of Blood Alley because of all the fatal crashes.

Public transportation out in this area is basically non-existent. We got some buses, and that's it. The closest BART(Bay Area Rapid Transit aka subway) station to where they are building this is concord about 30 min away, with the ride into the city taking another 45. It's on the cusp of being too far away to commute to the city.

It's being built in a drought area, and the neighboring town has already said we can't help with water.

[–] MaybeItWorks 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m assuming that if it is driven by tech, there will be offices for the major companies there. The developers will make it appealing for major tech firms to invest somehow.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, let's spend money to move offices to a worse location. More dangerous commute, more traffic, worse weather, worse neighboring cities and more air traffic,.

The developers don't need to make it that appealing. It's close enough to San Francisco and Sacramento while also being next to an airbase. The housing demand in the area is already high. They will be filled quickly no matter what. My bigger concern is what happens to Fairfield, I'm not sure if this will have a positive impact and I fear to see what a worse Fairfield would look like.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Man, I don’t know. When I was living in Concord, I felt like there were thousands of people commuting to SF from over thirty minutes east of us. It may have just been my misperception at the time (about six years ago), but it always felt like the demand for housing for the tech sector employees commuting to the city or further was always outpacing the capacity of the existing towns east of Oakland.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Tech workers don't live out here in significant numbers. They are way more common in the South Bay than the Fairfield area. IMO.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And also it's no a nearly billion but 800 million. I know it from another article posted here. So it's a paywalled clickbait repost.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

800 million is nearly a billion, much like how 8 is nearly 10.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The difference between 8 & 10 is 2, the difference between 800 million and 1 billion is 200 million.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

And the difference between 8 and 10 is 20% of 10. The difference between 800 million and 1000 million is 20% of 1000 million.

20% = 20%. The ratio is the same.

Since saying "8 is nearly 10" is reasonable, saying "800mil is nearly 1000mil" is also reasonable. The math doesnt change just because of the scale.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or they could simply say the actual amount instead of clickbaiting.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What's clickbait about using what we've established is a perfectly reasonable statement? 800mil is nearly 1 billion, exactly as stated.

Your problem is that they used common english instead of using slightly more precise english? A precise english that doesnt change the tone, timber, or really even the facts of the matter at hand?

Okay then.