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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.today/post/28977252

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration has warned the National Weather Service of possible attacks from an armed conspiracy group targeting Doppler radar stations, according to a report from CNN. The group, Veterans on Patrol, is going after government radars because it believes they're being used as "weather weapons."

CNN learned of the possible attacks through NOAA emails warning NWS staff that Veterans on Patrol was planning to conduct "penetration drills on NEXRAD sites to identify weaknesses," with the ultimate goal of destroying NEXRAD. Despite its cooler-than-average name, the NWS uses NEXRAD or "Next Generation Weather Radar" for a fairly mundane purpose: detecting precipitation in the atmosphere. NEXRAD plays a vital role in locating thunderstorms and tornados, making it easier to evacuate vulnerable communities before disaster strikes.

Archive link: https://archive.is/GVsgP

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Idiots and guns - name a more American combination.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Idiots and voting against their own best interests

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

That's currently a worldwide phenomenon.

[–] brax 8 points 3 weeks ago

Not true - Australia did it right.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I wish you were wrong

How is it that 2020 was more normal than 2025

[–] [email protected] 56 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

My brother is one of these idiots, I dunno how they got him. He's not part of the militia group but dipshit thinks a local radio tower that just went up is part of the weather control system...

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Conspiracy theorists tend to fall in one of two categories, specially if it seems like a sudden change:

  1. They're lonely and the people in the group are very welcoming to them.

  2. They feel they need to prove how smart they are, and think they're smarter than everyone who dismisses their theory.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Have you considered sharing more of your crayons? You can fix him

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The crayons are mine. They sustain me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Missed opportunity

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

@CrayonDevourer It's a combination of "I don't understand this fully and immediately myself" (without appreciating one's own vast ignorance about MOST things), with happening to catch something spoken or written that's wrong, but SOUNDS sensible (also due to that same ignorance), and thinking, "That sounds reasonable, and it harmonizes with my feelings, so it's probably right."

It's a child's grasp of reality. But also typical of far too many legal adults.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I can’t imagine how scary it must be to not understand how most things work honestly.

I guess George Carlin said it best….

Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

@billwashere I realized sometime back that actual intelligence isn't very relevant to good reasoning. It comes down to good thinking HABITS, which nearly anyone can develop with enough effort and practice. But it doesn't come naturally for most people, and instead must be taught and learned. And the later in life you learn those skills, the more you have to UNlearn to do it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

But critical thinking and intelligence have to be 2 fruits on the same tree, right? I can’t think of a single person I’ve ever met that had one and not the other. I can understand that critical thinking skills can be taught, but I’d argue that that skill creates more intelligence or at the very least awareness.

And I can testify that bad habits are very hard to unlearn.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

@billwashere More specifically, I come from a realm of scientists and academics, and I've by now seen MANY highly intelligent, very well-educated people who have demonstrated astonishing stupidity.

At the same time, I've also personally known people with clinically diagnosed neurological deficiency who can nevertheless reason very well, even very wisely.

What you're staying is true in broad statistics, but it's not a rule.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Totally agree. There are exceptions to everything.

I will also acquiesce to your major point though. I work in academia so I have seen my fair share of phd students that run with scissors.

[–] untakenusername 1 points 3 weeks ago

I'm sorry for you

[–] [email protected] 53 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

This is what happens when you don't fund science education.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This is what happens when you remove the fairness doctrine and allow the alt-right propaganda "news" machine go unchecked.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Wasn't the fairness doctrine right wing propoganda already? iirc the point was to give 1 anti-vaxer the same voice as every single pro-vaxination researcher on earth combined.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There is a saying that reality and facts have a liberal bias. When Nixon was in the process of being impeached, conservatives found that if they can control the narrative, the facts, then they can control the conversation. It's no accident that they went to attack the fairness doctrine and it finally fell under Reagan.

It may have had a right wing bias, but they are the ones that got rid of it because they wanted to protect their echo chamber

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago

no, this is what no child left behind does for 20 unchallenged years.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 weeks ago

I was really unprepared for how stupid the future would be.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Tomorrow's news: Trump appoints radar 'weather weapon' blogger to head up NOAA.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

This extremest group almost makes Trump look sane.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Shouldn't vets know what radar is?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"Vet" covers everyone from Air Force Tower Controllers to Navy Seals to the guy in charge of records in a basement in Alaska and more.

For 4 years active duty and 4 years reserve most people are involved in logistics or records, and few of those have to know anything about radar.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I did not know that.

I presumed it meant you'd been on the front lines, or seen combat.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You're not far off as it is the second definition of the word. "Vietnam vet" "Gulf war vet" etc.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

In that context it just means deployed to ths conflict. Sometimes it means contributed to the effort while in the military. So someone who cooked on base in Vietnam would be a Vietnam vet, but someone who enlisted during the Korean war but was sent to Japan wouldn't be a korea vet.

[–] brax 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Radicalizing Antenna Disguised As Radiotower

Duuuuuuuuuh 🤣

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

These are the same people attacked 5G towers during COVID

I'm not sure they are rational

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

What will they do when 6G comes out

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

An armed militarized group planning potential attacks on a federal government entity... Why would the FBI not be picking every one of those idiots up?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Because the FBI is currently run by some of these idiots.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, he literally sells bs covid vaccine reversal pills hahaha!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Haven't you heard, we're not funding the FBI this year...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The United States: Into Darkness.

A people manipulated and driven to the edge of Discovery and Dishonesty. We will turn the lights out to fear that which we know... But in the darkness there is nothing to find but our people's vengeful hatred of each other. Ignorance is the weapon, and the lights shall stay out.

So what does man do? We starve. We suffer. We bleed, and then when all else is lost we scream. Not out of fear; for that is already gone. We scream because we are already in hell. And it's the devil staring us in the face designing the torture.

We aren't a phoneix, we don't rise from the dead. We are supposed to be humanity; and it's lost past time we become it. If you think humanity was designed to be built in the image of God. Are you mistaken?

I'm an idiot

Neitzshche is dead.

God is an Idea

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

It is actually kind of weird to think about. Conservatives typically typically like police and the milliary.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

too busy picking up every farm and construction worker they can

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

MAGAts are complete idiots.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

AND brainwashed!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Wait until they hear about the 6G anal probes.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

...I wanna hear about 6G anal probes...

For science, of course.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Due to my job with an unnamed government entity, I am unable to disclose the immense pleasure that is coming your way. O_o

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

~~climate change and polution~~

Government conspiracy