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Age hasn't slowed you down one bit (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 1 year ago by lickmysword to c/[email protected]

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Old news but still pretty un-cool of Konami: https://www.gamezone.com/news/konami-locked-hideo-kojima-in-a-separate-room-away-from-dev-team-for-last-six-months-of-metal-gear-solid-5-the-phantom-pain-development-3446023/

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

why would they do this

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Two answers:

Konami sucks. I don’t like Kojima, but I still root for him when it comes to Konami. That company is cartoonishly stupid.
Afaik the new CEO was a thundercunt and told everyone to cut corners. Kojima told him to fuck off and continued implementing stuff into MGS, which in turn delayed the games launch. (If you are new to this Universe, making a good game takes time and love. This is something travellers from the Multiverse, CEOs and chimps with the Down syndrome don’t understand).

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

*bad CEOs

Example of a good CEO: Satoru Iwata

[–] lickmysword 6 points 1 year ago

Bingo, we'd have better games if more bosses of game studios could act that way(s).

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

I was with you until the ableism. besides that it's a good take.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

No more games only Pachinko.

[+] [email protected] -20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Mofo keeps adding shit that isn't in the budget probably.

At some point the people funding the project have to deliver a product, and if Kojima keeps the title in development hell there won't be a product.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You talking about the same kojima that delivered endless hits to the company over three decades?

[+] [email protected] -26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Endless? Pretty sure you can count them. They have numbers on the name.

Quit fanboying for a second and realize there are real time and money constraints, you cannot endlessly shovel features into software at a whim.

MGSV going open world was dangerous enough.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes let's count them

Metal Gear 1987
Snatcher 1988
SD Snatcher 1990
Metal Gear 2 1990
Policenauts 1994
Metal Gear Solid 1998
Metal Gear Solid 2 2001
Zone of the Enders 2001
Boktai: The Sun Is in Your Hand 2003
Metal Gear Solid 3 2004
Boktai 2: Solar Boy Django 2004
Metal Gear Solid 4 2008
Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker 2010
Metal Gear Solid Ground Zeroes 2014
Metal Gear Solid V: Phantom Pain

At this point, Konami shutter kojima productions, throw away the fox engine they had made for all Konami developers to use and fired the goose that laid their only golden eggs. At no point does kojima go more than 4 years between new products for Konami.

If you want to look at it from the purely business perspective, then you can make the argument that their new ceo wanted out of the video games business to focus on pachinko. That's a valid thing to make claims around. They basically killed off all their video game products.

But if you want to claim that that the game just needed to ship regardless, then well, reviews, critics, players, consumers, they'll all disagree with you there. The number one complaint is that this game wasn't finished. And as we've learnt Konami seemed to have bad blood that made them vindictive against the developers of the game that likely made things worse.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Then how do you explain this:

"Keighley went on to detail how shocked he was when he found out that Konami didn't allow Kojima to attend last year's Game Awards." (a quote from the article)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You'd have made a good point if everything he touched didn't turn to gold. Something something goose that lays the golden eggs.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Death Stranding was definitely not gold. Homie has to have someone to tell him when to stop, otherwise the narrative is a fucking mess.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Metacritic and sales figures disagree with you. It's fine if you don't like it, but it made money and garnered positive reputation.

You're acting like homie stole your girl, why are you so bitter about his success?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you think I'm bitter about his success you haven't read a single fucking thing I've said.

All I said is he needs someone to stop him, which is super clear if you look at the size and scope of both MGSV and Death Stranding.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're wrong. Just plain wrong. I think you might to think about stopping yourself.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago

I'm good fam. I'm not the one engaged in vapid celeb worship.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Idk man, If it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck. Youre acting pressed

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Then how do you explain Kojima's success with Death Stranding where he was basically free to do whatever he want with no one stopping him?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

that's probably why i spent most of my time with it cringing

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Rad ad campaign. Most people didn't even finish the first highway.

Probably because the story was nonsense (it wasn't but it was presented in horrid fashion) and the performances were phoned in. Couldn't keep people interested.

[–] Dups 9 points 1 year ago

Yeah. Shits fucked.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I mean... I guess you could say they tried to Hideo him away, but he still Kojima'd anyways?