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[–] MrsDoyle 53 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I discovered when I joined a volunteer litter-picking group in my town that some people really hate trees. And I must emphasise HATE. They hate the shade they cast in summer, the way the leaves block the all-important View. They hate the fallen leaves in autumn. They hate the bare branches in winter. They hate the risk of branches falling in storms. They hate the racket the birds make. I was astonished - it never occurred to me that people would feel so strongly.

Turns out I'm a bloody tree-hugging extremist.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

That's just unhinged. The trees are the view.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 20 hours ago

Those "people" would better serve as fertilizer (specifically for trees)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah trees are assholes. They always ring my doorbell trying to sell me the book of Gaia. Constantly telling me "you can't smoke here, sir". There's a tree behind my house who constantly wears the same glasses as me. Whenever I buy new ones, a day later this tree has the same. He's constantly mocking me for no reason.

I think all trees should be cut down and burned. Algae never complain, are always kind and always say "good day sir" when you walk by.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

A tree stole my wallet and had sex with my wife!

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[–] captain_aggravated 3 points 20 hours ago

I guess I'm too...born and raised in a forest?...to be the same species as those people.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 17 hours ago

I would support legislation that mandated these be used around the highest carbon emitting facilities. Maybe a few very well designed structures (algae tanks) in very densely populated cities.

These would be in no way a replacement for trees in a community but, I could see forcing the corporations to use them. Such as those that must pollute because, they can not manufacture these products without polluting.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

All these braindead silicon valley tech bros trynna reinvent existing solutions to problems in very expensive and unnecessary ways, marketing it as "revolutionary" and "groundbreaking"

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 day ago (3 children)

This is missing out on likely the most important part of trees in urban areas. Shade. They give you a cooler place to stand or walk through.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 day ago

No standing or sitting allowed. Resume consumerism!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago

taller buildings and smog do a more consistent job of providing shade than a new tree will in a decade.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago

The problem with trees in an urban setting is trees have roots, and these cause issues. The can damage pipes and other underground objects. And many trees that are designed to not have these issues, end up with stunted/damaged roots which severely effects the trees growth. Planting trees in urban settings take quite a lot of pre-planning, and aren't drop in solutions, and if the areas weren't originally designed with trees in mind, you are likely to cause more problems than solutions.

https://greenblue.com/gb/avoid-root-heave-pavement-damage-caused-urban-trees/ https://tiptoptreeandgroundcare.co.uk/2025/01/06/tree-roots-in-urban-spaces/

[–] [email protected] 5 points 19 hours ago

The problem with trees is they are used as lumber. The national parks has always been protected. But Trump has unprotected parts of the national parks to be cut down for lumber.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Trees don’t attract VC funding the way some dumb new invention does.

I guess this could be useful in places trees don’t fit but I think there are other simpler solutions.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

I guess the "problem" with trees is obvious: it takes decades for them to produce the desired cooling effect in urban areas. You plant a dozen young trees today, you can begin to reap the cooldown 10 years later at best. Also, they need a lot if water, and many of them just don't make it - urban surroundings are just much hotter and more stressful (smog, salt...) then standing with other trees in a forest. I fail to see though how these artificial "trees" provide any kind of benefit at all.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The amount of water required is trivial compared to most other water uses. Especially if correct species are selected.

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[–] [email protected] 92 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (13 children)

Like I always think that people don’t get one thing about trees in a city. There purpose is is not about co2. The co2 reduction of city trees is neglectable. The reason you need them in a city is temperature regulation, shade, air quality, mood, the local eco system and maybe solidifying unsealed ground. Putting these tanks in a city is laughably inefficient w.r.t. co2 conversion if you compare this to any effort to do this in instustrial capacity ( which is is also still laughably inefficient)

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[–] [email protected] 134 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (15 children)

While I don't want to spoil the joke (but I will) and I hate techno-optimist solutions that displace actual solutions for our biosphere as much as the next person: supposedly, Belgrade is such a dense concrete hell that trees aren't viable solution (at least in the short term).

There is some rumbling that liquid trees are not the solution to the real problems caused by large-scale deforestation, nor does it reduce erosion or enrich the soil. However, much of this wrath is misplaced as Liquid tree designers say that it was not made as a replacement for trees but was designed to work in areas where growing trees would be non-viable. Initiatives like Trillion Trees are laudable, but there is something to be said for the true utility of this tiny bioreactor. The fact that they can capture useful amounts of carbon dioxide from day one is another benefit for them. Such bioreactors are expected to become widespread in urban areas around the world as the planet battles rising carbon levels in the atmosphere.

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[–] tostiman 64 points 1 day ago

They can thrive in tap water and can withstand temperature extremes.

So maybe they can be used in regions that are too hot for trees, like desert cities

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I recently learned that there's a group dedicated to planting 1000 trees in the city of Trenton, NJ, USA. I'm really glad to see a city working to bring back a little nature!

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (5 children)

In Vienna, Austria, Europe, every tree removed has to be replaced with a new as per regulation

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Trees don’t create shareholder profits

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[–] [email protected] 102 points 1 day ago (5 children)

im guessing "where will the animals go" is also a stupid question?

[–] RvTV95XBeo 64 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Also, where do I find the shade?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You will shelter next to the goo tank and you will like it.

[–] RvTV95XBeo 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Only until a person who is unhoused tries it and they decide to install spikes all the way around.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 18 hours ago

Liquid thorn trees!

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

People really like vandalizing trees, diseases exist, and they are less efficient carbon sinks

Like how we found it’s better to feed cattle seaweed than grass but nobody wants to because it’s different

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Carbon sinks? Dude, people are planting trees in cities for the shade.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago (4 children)

A few reasons: Trees need a lot of space and the space underneath a sidewalk isn't enough for long term life. They can die after like 30 years? This is tree dependent and location dependent.

Tree roots can destroy sidewalks making it harder for people to go over them. (Think people in wheel chairs)

Liability in terms of damage (have you seen trees after a storm?)

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[–] matlag 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

The issue with trees is you need to adapt the city to them, you can't adapt them to the city. And people have proven once and again that they would invent anything to not move by an inch when our way of life is put in question.

So we push forward with absurd solutions one after the other: carbon capture, atmospheric geo-engineering, a damned nuke in antarctica, and now "liquid trees".

Because the alternative is to change our ways, and we can't face that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago
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