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[–] [email protected] 90 points 3 weeks ago (11 children)

Cool. Now let me legally record my phone calls without rooting my phone.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 weeks ago (30 children)

Built-in to GrapheneOS for a while now.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago

CalyxOS also has it (though they block it where it's illegal).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Two problems:

  1. No automatic call recording.
  2. Banking apps don't work on GrapheneOS thanks to Play Integrity APIs, so you probably need to root to get them to work.

If you need to root anyway, might as well use BCR.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There is an app called CubeACR which does exactly that on unrooted devices.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I very much doubt that, since Google removed the call recording APIs. But if someone can tell how it would work on recent Android, I would love being proven wrong.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

For users with a Samsung Flagship phone, if you have the "One UI 7" update, they just recently added this feature.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

And one UI 6.0 and one UI 5.0. My Samsung phones have done this for as long as I can remember

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[–] underline960 64 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

A beta build of Android 16 contains an early version of Google’s new Android Desktop Mode that, in the future, could let users simply plug their smartphone into a monitor and use it like a laptop or desktop computer.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

It seems this is an instance where the headline tells the full story

[–] taladar 56 points 3 weeks ago (20 children)

Now the question is if people will be stupid enough to replace all the freedoms their desktop OS still gives them with the vendor controlled shit show that is mobile OS.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

My guess is that people who would use DEX is also people who are satisfied with ChromeOS. Which is just as closed down.

Hopefully, when Android does this, they will be under same gatekeeper restrictions in the EU as Windows.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

i‘m hyped for a graphene desktop mode. that wouldn’t be a replacement for my laptop/ desktop computers but still very much sick. and if i can run a terminal with neovim and tmux or ssh into other machines it would be a dope backup/ micro setup. probably not very useful, but fun i think

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

100% they will and want this. I’m a power user and even I see this as the future.

Have you worked in a non-tech field with people? Modern OSs and office apps are not intuitive to them. Hell, a lot have problems with just their phones as is.

[–] taladar 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I suppose you mean the same effect I have noticed with our younger apprentices who know very little about the way computers work anymore since they grew up with phones only, they don't even know what a file system is any more.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yeah.. I dont see this happening. Android has 99% shovelware crap. I dont see how any professional would be able to use Android instead of Windows, MacOS or Linux.

Android is garbage, and I'm saying this as an android user... The moment a serious Linux alternative is here for phones I'm gone (yes I'm aware Android is technically also "Linux").

Just a few examples: the file system is a mess, good luck trying to easily save on network drives. There is no decent office suite and again using the files system to save documents in Android is a shitshow. There are Adobe products but they're all watered down shitty versions of the desktop ones, the alternatives are even worse. Around every corner google tries to push it's shitty cloud subscriptions, the telemetry is insane even compared to windows.

No Android is definitely not the future chromebooks were a mess too. And knowing Google they'll just give up on anything they don't seem profitable enough so even if they tried on desktop they'll just pull the plug after 2 years.

If people complain about Linux being hard... give android a try as desktop OS it's probably 10x worse. At least Linux comes with a decent office suite and decent networking capabilities.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I swear they've been writing the same article for a year.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

Much longer than that. But that's probably because Google keeps picking it up and then dropping it again.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

do you think I am masochist or what, better give me gnu/linux on mobile ;)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
  • postmarketOS for older mainstream phones
  • Librem 5
  • PinePhone and PinePhone Pro
  • FuriLabs FLX1
  • Liberux Nexx (upcoming)
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[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

I used to think the idea of a phone that is also my desktop would be really cool. But then I got to thinking just how locked down iOS and to a lesser extent Android are compared to Linux/Windows/MacOS, and decided I wouldn't use my Pixel as a replacement for my desktop or laptop even if the feature was there.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

Cool. Samsung did this a decade ago though.

Everyone is abandoning Android with a passion thanks to Google's bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

But yeah. Fuck Google

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

Ubuntu did this a decade ago too

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The Motorola Atrix 4G had a Desktop Mode (Webtop was its name and it was Ubuntu based) in 2011 before Samsung. They even released a cradle dock, that you could connect to a tv or monitor, and a laptop dock for it and the source code on Sourceforge (my guess is to be GPL compliant).

I got that phone specifically for the desktop mode. It had a full blown Firefox browser installed and you could run your apps along side it.

I was blown away and thought, "This is the future for computers" but I was incredibly wrong. After the short honeymoon period i found it to be sluggish and clunky when using an android app. The hardware although phenomenal for a phone couldn't provide an optimal experience for a desktop.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

Everyone is abandoning Android

What do you mean?

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

You mean they're going to turn Androids into Chromebooks.

Honestly, it sounds horrible, but for people who don't have a PC, I guess it could be a benefit.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

This will make Android tablets a lot more appealing I guess, the ones that come with light keyboards coupled with the cover.

The major uses for me would be reading (web pages, pdfs) and code review or even some light coding. Not saying I will buy one for this but definitely something I would keep in mind for the future.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Dex was kind of nifty if you had a monitor laying around. I'm guessing this is the non-Samsung version feature.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago

Microsoft tried the same idea about 10 years ago with Continuum, even including a hardware dongle: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Continuum https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/device-experiences/continuum-phone

Canonical had something similar, too, back in the days with their Ubuntu Touch and named it Convergence: https://www.linux.com/news/first-ubuntu-touch-tablet-brings-convergence-last/

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

That's cool and everything, yet we have an itsy-bitsy tiny problem: iirc, there are like 3.5 vendors that have opted into dp alt mode support, and each one I know of kinda sucks. I suppose it might be possible to simply enable it in software by changing the devicetree on usb3 devices or something if the port the vendor decided to route is the one multiplexed with dp, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Ability to recognize non-ASCII characters in the dialer? Nope... Ability to skip auto connect to the Bluetooth device? Nope, never again... Record phone calls? No, fuck you, we don't like it in US so it is banned to the whole world. Here you are a feature nobody asks for and shut up...

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Didn’t canonical try this years ago?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

Hopefully this means I can have a GraphineOS laptop (whenever google makes a new Pixel Laptop)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This paired with virtualization features (hopefully with working sommelier) potentially enable running desktop wayland apps on phone.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

To run waydroid on it

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

If you want deskktop version of Firefox or Chromium on your phone, you can get them using Termux. But yeah they will be slow.

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