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A picture of the Ben Affleck Smoking meme, with the caption "Me seeing people on reddit telling other people to go to lemmy.world"

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

.world as far as I can tell, is a fairly good starting point for reddit refugees (like myself). I'm still annoyed by the lack of multis, so in order to keep my interests organized I have to have multiple accounts, but I'm otherwise fairly happy with it. Might migrate to another instance purely to get away from the .world vs .ml drama, and I'd encourage other reddit refugees to also migrate instances after becoming familiar with how lemmy works.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

"Lemmy is great, you can choose whatever instance you want! But fuck you if you choose that one."

[–] [email protected] 8 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

No, don't recommend that one. I don't care if you're on LW, its just not a great idea to recommend it to newcomers.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Can't I change instances if I want? Seems like having a landing zone would be a good thing. Picking a server to join for your initial setup is really confusing for the less tech inclined. That on-boarding process bounces tons of users and making it simpler up front would be best for growth.

This is all moot if you can't change the server your account is on and my b if I'm wrong on that one.

[–] Jakeroxs 2 points 7 hours ago

You can sign up for a new account, but you'll lose your preferences and such, there's no migration feature I don't think yet.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Well when .ee defederates from the tankies they can join the adult community

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

The main benefit to being on .ee is federating with nearly everyone.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

I was forced to go to Lemmy after the post-inauguration bloodbath, but Ive liked it a lot, more than Reddit in many ways. I was getting really tired of the bots, puns, Russian Propganda, novelty accounts, TROLLS, etc.

OTOH, I feel like I can speak much more freely on Lemmy. Even before I got permabanned, Reddits Free Speech mission had become non-existent.

The downside of Lemmy is that some of my favorite subs don't have an equivalent on Lemmy. For instance, the Reddit guitar subs are very active, but the few Lemmy guitar forums are nearly empty, with posts that are days, weeks, months, and even years, apart. I tried Googling "Lemmy Guitar" for ideas, and literally every link was about Motorhead.

So I welcome more quality Reddit immigrants, as long as all the Trolls stay over there.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago

some comms you're gonna need to build

[–] [email protected] 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Help build the guitar community, tell the people on reddit to come here instead. I will do the same.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

I can't, I'm permabanned. I tried getting around it several times, with new account names, but each one lasted a shorter and shorter time, as the algorithm honed in on me. My first alt lasted a few weeks, my last one was caught within an hour.

I do like the idea of building the Guitar community here at Lemmy, I'm just not familiar enough with the system to know how to do that. Do we start a new forum, or take over an existing one? Do we have just one and put EVERYTHING in there, or do we split it up between various subjects - general, lessons, performances, gear, amps, etc.?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

How'd you manage to get banned?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I repeated an opinion that I'd made made times in the past without even a warning. The first time after the Inauguration, and I was permabanned, despite being a 12 year member with over 900K in karma.

I came to Lemmy, and discovered a lot of recently exiled Reddit vets with high volume posting accounts that were 10+ years old. We were the people that built Reddit over the last decade, with thousands of posts without getting banned, and suddenly ALL of us managed to say something bad enough in the same month to get permabanned.

It turned out February was a bloodbath, and an unknowm number of people were ejected, probably in the thousands. Recently we found out that Musk had been pressuring Spez, and obviously Spez capitulated, like so many other cowardly CEOs, abandoning their core Free Speech mission (which was becoming increasingly compromised anyway).

I'm still lurking over there, but the problems they were habing with puns, bots, TROLLS, Russian propaganda farmers, etc. have only gotten worse.

So now I'm at Lemmy, with a lot of other active ex-Redditors. It looks a lot like Reddit looked 12 years ago, when I started over there. I've seen many of the original posts that have become Reddit lore, and I'll miss what we built, but it's best days are definitely behind it. Now, we'll help energize Lemmy, and grow it into its own cultural powerhouse.

For me, that includes building an active, enthusiastic, supportive, POSITIVE guitar community here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Lmao your case sounds very similar to me except I haven't been banned, but apparently mostly because I just lurk most of the time because reddit sucks more and more every day. The last straw was them getting rid of messages and not giving a good old.reddit alternative which made me realize they're going to kill old reddit soon, and I refuse to use their shitty new UI. I've been on there for like 13 years and I feel like it's gotten way worse way faster in the past year than it has in a long time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

I wasn't just a lurker, I was extremely active, with over 900K in karma. I was going to try to break 1 million this year. Not only that, I was a fairly radical activist, and was rabidly anti-MAGA. Reddit has capitulated to MAGA, so now Im a political enemy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 12 hours ago

This

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

First post on Lemmy! and oh my word… never seen such an eclectic mix of flavours of people, positions and politics in a long time.

This decentralised thing could actually be a good thing: pulls people away from bubbles and echo chambers!

Just remember to play nice :)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago

Welcome!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago

Welcome!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

i said it before but lemmy hates new users

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago

I don't hate new users. Just, please recommend another instance to newcomers.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

lemmy.world does not allow the use of vpn to post. vpn is basic internet hygiene. do not go to lemmy.world if you care about that, our you will not be able to post.

you can join any federated instance instead.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

lemmy.world does not allow the use of vpn to post.

That is definitely not true. I'm using one right now, and there is a VPN community at [email protected].

[–] [email protected] 8 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

vpn is basic internet hygiene

according to vpn companies

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 hours ago

9 out 10 VPN companies recommend hiding your IP address.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What do you want them to do? Select an instance at random, to spread them out?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Yeah, this is just stupid. I wish a significant amount of redditors would go to lemmy.world

I mean, what do you want to tell them to join? Something called "mander.xyz"? "sopuli.xyz"? Maybe something like sh.itjust.works, jlai.lu or yall.theatl.social? I'd feel awkward enough telling them to join "Lemmy" then linking to lemm.ee. Sending them to lemmy.ml would just be cruel.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

I picked lemmy.world because it sounded the least sus

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

Yeah. Looking at the 'verse The other ones are for developers, Canadians, Pro-AI, Canadians again, NSFW, programming, gender diversity, techy people, Finland!, PCs/Gaming, Climate criss, Leftist (but not Liberal).

Like there's not instances for the rest of us, so you just end up going to the General ones.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

As many others did, and many others will in the future.

Referring new users to a poorly named instance is a generally bad idea. Many of our instances do look very similar to the nonsense links you're taught you're not supposed to not click on if you get them in an email or see them on the internet in the wild.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

It is the most popular and easy to understand, I've never been harassed by the instance admins or mods like in other communities. (.ml .blahaj .ee)

.world is the defalt instance and I can't find a better one to take its place

[–] [email protected] 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

lemm.ee wasnt off to me but yeah lemmyworld seemed like the better just because it had lemmy in the name lmao, lemmy.ca maybe

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 hours ago

lemmy.ca is alright.

And I'm not saying the other instances shouldn't be like they are with their weird, esoteric names. But I am saying they're generally a poor introduction.

Personally, after having spent some time on lemmy, while I like lemm.ee I feel like I could be fine to move to mander.xyz or sh.itjust.works. If I was on lemmy.world and not lemm.ee, I might've done it. But I'd have to start fresh, I wouldn't be able to move my user there. And personally, I get kind of attached to my account. I don't really like making a new one and leaving the old one. I wouldn't like to keep logging into two different accounts, either.

I feel like if it were feasible, it could potentially be very good to allow users to just press a "Move user to another instance" button. Might be a terrible idea, but hear me out.

The function being, I guess, to either fully move its data to another instance with their full history. Or alternatively, to effectively just remake the account with the same login besides instance, and keeping access to their user's "legacy" history accessible from the old instance within the profile. Maybe with legacy history as a separate thing if necessary, ideally it would be displayed in the same list as native history but with a marker or something. Either solution sounds potentially messy, but maybe it could be done elegantly. I would guess the latter with the new account linking to the old account would be better, not messing with where the old comments and posts and messages and votes are stored. Maybe it could effectively be generated as just a simple separate text file to refer to, to link to the legacy part of the profile's history from the other instance. Not sure about any of that. Maybe it would make sense to just allow one move per year.

Either way, if this could work well, it could make many users much more willing to switch to one of the smaller instances after initially joining lemmy.world. Especially if lemmy.world does something many users don't like.

I know I'd personally prefer this kind of solution if lemm.ee were to turn into an extremist trekkie instance that started mandating "Live long and prosper, to all except Lucasfilms." at the end of every post and top level comment. I'd want to bring my profile and history and block lists and whatever over.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm just going to post this old post again.

or for the lazy

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can we recommend another generic instance? .world has a few problems plaguing it right now.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I registered with blahaj first but I couldn't. Log in after a couple of months and never found a solution.

I came to Lemmy on my own but felt forced I to .World.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

There are other generalist or niche instances beyond .world

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago

a generic instance is what most users need to actually make the move, if they like it or understand it better later they might choose a different insurance later, if not who cares they can still interact with others.

[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 day ago (17 children)

The cold truth is that to onboard people in greater numbers you need a default instance recommendation. You just do. You absolutely cannot ask potential new users (many of which will - hopefully - be casual and not so tech savvy) to sit down and undertake a multi hour research project into finding an appropriate small instance for them. You cannot reasonably expect people to look into uptime, funding and defederation lists to make an informed decision about where to register. You just need them through the door and posting and commenting and voting.

Making a new account somewhere else is super easy and painless once they're already here. We just need to get them here.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago

I agree as I am one such case. I created an account like a year and a half ago and got so overwhelmed with it I just ignored it. Even the explainer I found was just too much. Finally a couple weeks ago I remembered it given all the Reddit is compromised stuff. I found my login info. I also happened to have had a gummy so I was in the right high mindset to just go down a rabbithole and finally figured it out. I still don't really understand how Lemmy interacts with like Mastodon or Pixelfed etc.

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