Ironically the proton mail ceo is pretty Maga hard.
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The fundamental issue is that these days there isnโt European software (and I doubt even American software).
We all rely on a supply chain of software. This open source library from a French guy hosted on an GitHub, this linkable but closed source library for interacting with this piece of hardware, this componed developed by people all around the world and hosted in Germany.
Heck even the Linux kernel kicked out Russian maintainers for this exact reason.
If the S* will hit the fan as the s* promised during election, I expect more and more government mandated backdoors.
Imagine the s*show of log4j but this time in boost or gcc std library made in a way that seems an innocent mistake, hard to trigger and hidden in the changelog and submitted at the same time a legitimate change in the same file happen
"I did this thing" - "is this thing possible?"
Yes, because you literally just wrote that you did it....
It's pretty easy if you have an e-mail job, but it's hard to avoid American software with stuff like CAD.
Dassault Systemes (CATIA and SolidWorks) is French and Bricsys (BricsCAD) it's Belgian/Swedish. Unfortunately PTC and Autodesk are both American.
Draftsight only has Windows and Mac versions, though.
Siemens (NX etc) is pretty European though.
That's what I'm saying.
- 3d composition
- rendering
- particle simulation
- music production ...
Yes, you might be able to do it in European software but even if you might, it always means you waste a lot more time on it. And if your job's competitive, there's no way you have that to spare.
Don't get me wrong,I want things to change and I'm honestly really hopeful, but we're not quite there yet.
The only one i know of is rendering. Blender is open source and from the Netherlands (iirc) and just as powerful as anything else on the market.
Blender is indeed really good, but depending on what you wanna do you're at the mercy of an external renderer, which could either be EU (e.g. V-Ray out of Sofia) or from outside (e.g. Octane is from California).
Good overview for awareness. Now add peertube.
I work on Linux. The Linux Foundation is based in America and has recently demonstrated it abides by american law (by kicking russian maintainers).
Is there an alternative?
If Linux Foundation continues to comply with unjust and dangerous laws, I imagine europe will just establish their own fork foundation, rather than ditching linux.
That would be a schism to behold
I mean the largest problem in a business sense has always been cooperating with other businesses.
That microsoft excel file your distributor sent you with builtin macros and code that just won't function correctly in libreoffice calc and so on.
It's already a source of friction when university folks in sweden primarily using the google workplace want to coordinate with businesses in sweden that are mostly using microsoft office.
In construction the most common way to coordinate with subtractors is through microsoft teams/sharepoint online, at least here in sweden.
That seems more like a 90s problem. Who uses Microsoft Office today as a data exchange format?
@taladar
The world is run on excel spreadsheets.
@anamethatisnt
In my experience the world is run on CSV (and closely related like TSV), XML and JSON files when it comes to actual data exchange via files (as opposed to direct API usage where XML and JSON also dominate). Only the small minority of people working for companies still using ad-hoc workflows instead of custom software might send excel files instead.
Sure maybe for API and software type things but I've never seen an actual person email an XML or JSON file to another person.
I have seen XML but XLSX and XML are pretty similar
As I said, companies still using manual processes because they haven't gotten any of their processes turned into custom or off-the-shelf software might do that but that is essentially where most of the industries were in the 90s and now most are on generation 2-3 at least of custom software for their industry or even their company specifically for processes requiring data exchange.
Many industries also created standardized formats based on XML at some point which is largely why they still use XML, e.g. ONIX in the publishing industry. Entire industries of third party handling for data for certain industries have developed since the times when sending Excel files to each other was common.
You would puke if you knew what kind of workflows if have seen.
Just as many still uses Outlook and email as some sort of FTP service and then whine about reaching their 50GB/100GB M365 mailboxes.
that's a good thing, those macros are how office documents transmit more viruses than anything else lmfao
It's all pointless without replacing windows, which is impossible if you work in any sort of manufacturing job. CAD/CAM requires Windows (please don't suggest FreeCAD), industrial automation requires Windows, any specialized devices with software control requires Windows.
Heck, industrial PCs by and large run Windows, which is insane to me.
First of all, it's not pointless -- every little bit helps.
Second, CAM requires gcode, and that runs on microcontrollers, not Windows PCs. Gcode can be emitted by all sorts of software, and not all of it requires Windows.
First of all, it's not pointless -- every little bit helps.
And I really want to emphasize this. People are having an "all or nothing" attitude about this when that's not even the point.
If we can replace 50, 40, even 30% of the US software we use daily with European alternatives, it's already a massive win for us. The difference then adds up to millions at scale at the end of the fiscal year.
Sure but the vast majority of profession CAM software only runs on windows. Autodesk, SolidWorks, Mastercam, and Siemens NX all only have windows versions.
And I think you'd be shocked at how many industrial machines do run on specialized embedded windows machines and not just little esp32 microcontrollers.
Source: IT manager at a manufacturing company.
Siemens is finally moving on to BSD IIRC and (slowly) industrial PC's are going to switch over.
Last new industrial windows based PC, server, as well as HMI I installed was in 2022. But yeah it's slow.
Beckhoff Is supposed to have a Linux version of the TwinCAT runtime SOONโข
Awesome! Glad we are getting rid of windows in critical infrastructure. I can't count the amount of times I've had to make workarounds that feel wrong due to windows being... Windows. And the amount of time I've spent on making sure it doesn't cause trouble anytime...