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[–] WatDabney@lemmy.dbzer0.com 108 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Between the House and the Senate, there are currently 258 Democrats in Congress.

And 224 of them are fascist collaborators.

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Dems just making sure the 2 party system dies forever.

[–] ChaoticCookie 14 points 1 week ago

When I said I didn’t want a 2 party system, this isn’t what I meant!

[–] WatDabney@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago

Or maybe more accurately, the illusion of a two-party system.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 74 points 2 weeks ago (51 children)

The Democratic party is a party of cowards.

[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 15 points 2 weeks ago

Most politicians are cowards.

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[–] Fingolfinz@lemmy.world 65 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

The dnc is controlled opposition. We have to get actual progressives elected at local levels and it’ll be a fucking process but it’ll eventually make the party actual opposition

[–] WarlordSdocy@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We've been doing pretty good at that in Oregon in the Portland area especially, we got a fair few DSA people elected to the city council and to the state house in the last election. Although I doubt that will ever really convert the Dems into an actual progressive party, it's a lot more likely that the Democratic party dies with the rise of new progressive candidates and new progressive parties winning.

[–] Fingolfinz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That’s awesome, it’s been like that in St. Louis too at the local level but can’t break past that. If a new party is what’s really needed though, then ideas need to get agreed and things need to become more centralized, I’m seeing like 50 different progressive parties lately and that fragmentation will get us no where

[–] WarlordSdocy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I mean at least from what I've seen of it so far DSA is a fairly good choice, as I think for a party to be really progressive and represent the working class people it needs to be run democratically with party members actually having a voice and vote on what the party does. Which so far most other parties tend to follow the normal party strategy with party leadership and candidates making choices about what policies they want which just seems like a path to another Democratic party down the line that is disconnected from the people.

I think if anything though fragmentation isn't really the problem with breaking past local wins. I think it's more that the higher up you get the more corporate money starts to have a large impact and the harder and more support you need to run a grass roots campaign. The higher up you get the harder it becomes to reach out directly to voters through door knocking and events and the more advertisements and mass media campaigns tend to have influence which is where corporate money thrives. I think the way around this outside of campaign finance reform is building up that local support so you can have those local candidates that have already done outreach directly with their local constituents provide support and endorsement towards electing people at higher levels.

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

You'll have to throw Chuck Schumer into a retirement home (or a volcano) first.

[–] Fingolfinz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

It’s seeming like it, fucking ghouls run the dnc

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

And until we get people willing to talk about who is controlling the dnc and why (the zionist) then the dnc will remain trapped in other peoples pockets fwith no conceivable end in sight.

[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 52 points 2 weeks ago

"No way to prevent this, say the Democrats who are actively collaborating with the fascists"

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Lots of people are trying but it's not so easy to do. Our voting system is geared to only allow two parties and any actual third party that starts to gain traction gets shut down by the people with money and existing power. I don't think it's strictly impossible but I also don't think we can realistically pull it off. We need a solution outside the existing hierarchy imo

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago

Starting a new party is going to require current elected Democrats to leave the party and start a new one. It probably can't be done by just "lots of people" and has to be done with people who have serious clout.

[–] amorpheus@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] MisterOwl@lemmy.world 41 points 2 weeks ago

Just shows how cowardly the Democrats are now. Most of them were afraid to sign a piece of paper that means literally nothing.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

now it's on the voters to make some democrats disappear.

[–] DemBoSain@midwest.social 18 points 2 weeks ago
[–] derryt@lemm.ee 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Sigh, I see I can't trust my senator to do the right thing anymore. Edit: meaning he didn't sign it. POS trader.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 17 points 2 weeks ago
[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 10 points 1 week ago (3 children)

They didn't used to be this way, for some reason under Biden they went super anti-immigration

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

What a load of shit. What time period are you referring to when you believed Democrats were pro-immigrant? Let’s factcheck that shit.

Even Obama deported way more people than Trump, built the immigrant cages, and vastly expanded ICE. Clinton was equally anti-immigrant.

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[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

"For some reason."

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[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 8 points 2 weeks ago

sad as fuck.

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

My state included 9.

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