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[–] sun_is_ra 159 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

Are they trying to kill windows on purpose?

[–] [email protected] 127 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

The sad thing is they know the large majority of users will comply. Most people put familiarity and convenience above their own privacy and general well-being.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Once valve drops better nvidia support into the kernel, and steamos starts coming pre-loaded on laptops and pre-built desktops it's over for their consumer division.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

There's nothing special about SteamOS. Linux has been available as an option from several manufacturers for years.

What we need to see is a major studio pushing for Linux like valve has been doing.

Imagine if call of duty or fortnite had a Linux promotion to have a penguin hat. That would help

[–] [email protected] 46 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

There kind of is though. I'm not here to argue it's enough to unseat windows but it is markedly different

From a technical standpoint it's just another linux distro with some nice tweaks for gaming but from a human perspective it has brand recognition, familiarity, a known company behind it. Those things do really matter for adoption. No idea if that'd be anywhere near enough, I'm not inclined to make predictions, but it does have explicit advantages over consumers hearing they can get a laptop with Ubuntu or fedora on it

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

What we need to see is a major studio pushing for Linux like valve has been doing.

That's it. That's literally what makes it special. You, me, and half the fediverse probably aren't going to use steam os unless maybe we buy a steam deck.

The fact that there's a multi-billion dollar company throwing money at both it and proton is what makes steam os special. Its what's going to give Linux a unified brand name that every machine can put on their case badge.

Normal people and the companies that sell them computers need that unified brand name. Why on gods green earth, I don't fucking know, but I know that they do. Its how you get them to use shit.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago

The fact that Facebook still exists is proof of this.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Also, I will not be surprised if they audaciously disable Win 10 Home edition for security purposes once end of life is reached.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago

They already said they are going to charge $30/year for patches. They want recurring revenue from ads in 11 or from you paying yearly for 10.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 weeks ago

companies do things like this when they feel they have the power in the business/customer relationship and there's no regulations to stop them.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago

I wouldn't say that, more just abusing a monopoly.

[–] IrateAnteater 14 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I don't know what is going on at Microsoft. I'm starting to think that they are trying to pivot to a completely different business model. In addition to this Windows 11 crap and XBox seemingly being given up on, they appear to be losing their embedded market as well. In the past, if you saw any screen in an industrial setting, there's a good chance that there was the embedded Windows version behind that screen. Lately, all the new products are moving over to Linux.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago

They are, and have said they are.

Subscriptions are the wave of the future.

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[–] [email protected] 144 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I've used the unpatchable Win11 account loophole, that exploits a functionality of your pc, where you wipe your boot drive, and install NixOS on it

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago

That's a neat trick!

[–] [email protected] 93 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Why the fuck is a Microsoft account so important to Windows that running it without one is considered a "loophole"?

[–] IrateAnteater 62 points 3 weeks ago

My guess is that's it's easier to neatly package your data up for when they go to sell it.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 3 weeks ago

Because we need your data silly 😊

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 weeks ago

They want to make money off of services, every service they offer requires a Microsoft account to purchase and use. Everyone that they force to make an account during setup is one step closer to paying for a Microsoft service.

There are obviously tradeoffs (less sales of these versions of windows and some users pushed away from Windows altogether among others), but the motivation is clear.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 weeks ago

because microsoft is shifting focus from selling you a product, to selling you as a product

And they need a unique account to track every single click and thing you do on your PC, and the web, and everywhere else to facilitate doing that with greater control and ease.

Its literally what, and for the same reason, google has done for the past decade+

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 68 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Describing the ability to make a local account as a loophole is letting a little too much real intention slip out.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I didn't know Gentoo was named after a penguin.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Now I want a Chinstrap and a Southern Rockhopper Linux.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago

Chinstrap Linux haha. It's like Fedora, but for a totally different demographic.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

It's not a big deal. They're removing the bypassnro.cmd script, which is just this:


@echo off

reg add HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\OOBE /v BypassNRO /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f

shutdown /r /t 0


You can still use shift-F10 at the same point, type those two lines (not the @ECHO OFF), and it will achieve the same result.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago

Their intention is clear. I wonder for how long this workaround is going to stay.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 3 weeks ago

I really hope the whole shift away from American products will convince more software and game developers to provide native support for Linux. I am approaching the fence.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 3 weeks ago (16 children)

Uh

Who's ready to talk Linux

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Man, Microsoft advertising for Linux Mint YET AGAIN?! They are so gracious.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Why is everyone reccommending linux mint all of a sudden? What happened to ubuntu and fedora?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Ubuntu added telemetry and forced snaps

[–] DannyBoy 18 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

And Ubuntu Pro popup ads. Linux Mint is, from a compatibility standpoint, Ubuntu without the crap.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago

Mint is ubuntu with the icky stuff removed and given an extra layer of polish. Still loving it here.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This forced account shit is infuriating. I’d see students with computers that cannot get to government-provided education sites because they are forced to sign up with a Microsoft account to use their PC, which forced them to setup a child account because of their age and therefore be under a parent account, which means the child account can only use Edge and can only go to whitelisted websites, which blocks some government education sites unless the parent account allows it through which they can’t until the student goes home.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 weeks ago

lol there's already a fix: run start ms-cxh:localonly from a CMD line in the installer

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 weeks ago

I'm so glad I finally ditched that shit for good

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 weeks ago

Windows 11 is enshittfying a feature that let you skip making a Microsoft account

There, FTFY.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 weeks ago

Just one more reason not to use Windows, As if forcing data scrapers down our throat in the guise of AI wasn't enough.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago (12 children)

Will people just stop using windows already. I get for work but if you just waiting on that one game then fuck off it's not worth it. I gave up some of my favorite games because it wasn't worth using Windows

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 weeks ago

Proton is amazing though. I got Lego LotR working on my steam deck by installing some DirectX 9 dependency to fix a graphical glitch with the game. Runs like a dream.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I just deleted my old Mocrosoft account. Forgot I had it until recently.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago

Even MORE reason not to upgrade!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

The company is cracking down on the ability to install Windows 11 on older PCs that don’t support TPM 2.0

But still runs fine in a VM (where it belongs to) on Linux on a system without TPM, right?

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