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[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Ya. These are the same people that continually try to take down Team Four Star for their satirization of DBZ because it made is actually better in many ways, from a country that has some of the worst satire and free use laws in the world.

Creators of copyrighted material in Japan can literally sue someone from making fun of their material.

Pardon me if I don't take their crocodile tears seriously.

[–] jwmgregory@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago (11 children)

i hate how brainwashed westerners are. will go on a diatribe about the importance of free speech and then rabidly defend copyright as if it isn’t directly contrary to the idea of freedom of information, all in the same breath.

inb4 that’s a description of every reply to this comment.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea 7 points 2 days ago

I don't see an issue.

Let's say I write a book and it starts getting popular. A big publisher notices and makes a nicer looking book that's a direct copy and runs a marketing campaign and it goes viral. It turns into a movie, video game, and has tons of merch. The publisher makes tons of money and I get nothing.

Is that really the future you want?

Copyright grants a temporary monopoly on a work, and that's a good thing because it protects people from large corporations that have much more resources than them.

The problem with copyright is that it lasts too long, not that it exists. We need to cut copyright substantially (say, 10-20 years), but not throw it out altogether.

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[–] Kecessa 178 points 3 days ago (41 children)

So was it trained on his work without his approval?

[–] undeffeined@lemmy.ml 103 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

That should be the headline. Assuming it was done without consent, which lets face it, it most likely was.

Edit: It came to my attention that Japan has a more open stance to AI training on copyright materials. It does however say that

Accordingly, the focus is that ingestion of copyrighted material is prohibited if the intention is to output products that can be perceived as creative expressions of copyrighted works, including mimicking the style of specific creators.

Not a laywer but all these memes created by the ChatGPT look like creative expressions that mimic the style.

Read more here

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 63 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The way Altman whines about how much he should be allowed to steal people's work to feed his bottom line, I have no doubt whatsoever that this is the case.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

These people from the Silicon Valley see themselves as the saviours of mankind (look up Longtermism in Silicon Valley). Within their structure of believe anything is within reason as long as it serves the greater good. That includes anything from obviously breaking the law to outright genocide, which we see in action right now.

Of course since their moral code is already eroded to its core there are no boundaries, like "I shouldn't molest other people"…

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[–] dan69@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Since when do rich billionaires care about consent??

[–] devfuuu@lemmy.world 69 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Like all other AI and all the copyright in the world. Shareholders are ok with. Copyright for me, not for you. Pirates were the bad guys. These are the saviours we deserve.

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[–] thickertoofan@lemm.ee 12 points 2 days ago

Everything was. Is ...

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 45 points 3 days ago

Seems this is legal now. Keep this in mind, when the next video game decompilation project comes along because that's also machine-generated material based on copyrighted released media. That must be equally as legal now.

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[–] bingBingBongBong@lemm.ee 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't understand this post properly. Miyazaki critizes an the movement animation based on an AI model, not chatgpt's ghibli stuff?

[–] girsaysdoom 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The article isn't about the new animation but about how the old clip has resurfaced and is retreading its origin and how it relates to recent events.

Now coming back to Miyazaki’s thoughts on AI, a widely shared video from 2016 shows the legendary animator reacting with disgust to an AI-generated animation demo.

The animation in the clip reminded him about his friend's disability and how the creators of the animation didn't regard ableism while making it. Later in the clip, one of the creators had expressed that they would like to create a machine that could "draw pictures as humans do" and Miyazaki was depicted as displeased after this statement.

The article doesn't go into if there were any comments from Miyazaki on the Ghibli-style image.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 125 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Miyazaki is my favorite angry old man.

[–] Flemmy@lemm.ee 32 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Life is hard when you dreamed of being a chèf but got popular with animation.

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[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 69 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The funny thing is OpenAI's image generator didn't really do a good job with making a Ghibli stylized version of Altman.

That being said, there will be a downstream impact on media quality if there is no novel approach to balancing creative work and AI slop generators. Don't think there is a simple answer.

[–] skvlp@lemm.ee 77 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Replacing amazing creative humans with bland AI generated content is not a good use of AI.

[–] heavydust 37 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Ironic since the decrease of human made work (art or software) will decrease the quality or diversity of generative AI itself

[–] devfuuu@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Which the shareholders couldn't freaking care less. They only need to get super rich in their lifetime.

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[–] deathbird@mander.xyz 36 points 3 days ago

See this is the (well, one major) problem with copyright.

Imaginary property for me ("AI" goons), not for thee (actual artists).

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 3 days ago

Unfathomably based

[–] filister@lemmy.world 40 points 3 days ago (13 children)

The bigger problem here is the loss of jobs and we are talking about a huge loss of employment that will affect economies really hard. The future looks more and more bleak.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 31 points 3 days ago (12 children)

The bigger problem here is the loss of jobs and we are talking about a huge loss of employment that will affect economies really hard.

I would say that's a tangential problem. Because, you know, in theory...

But the deeper problem is ultimately in expertise as a learned skill developed over time and through practice. If you're de-skilling work, you're dismantling the tools by which we train the next generation of artists and production crews. If we were just replacing humans with machines for some route manual labor (like Pixar replaced Disney's old hand drawn animations with a newer CGI look), the result would be a new style and perhaps less tendentious from route reproductions.

But we're gutting the whole process of development which means you're losing the pool of skilled professionals who know how to create CGI (or even flip-book style 60s animation) from first principles. That means sacrificing whole fields of specialized expertise for... what? This?

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[–] daddy32@lemmy.world 32 points 3 days ago (11 children)

I don't know about you, but I don't absolutely require job for my life. I do require nutrients and shelter though...

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