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The title is err, not correct because the top 2 alternatives Opera and Arc are based on Chromium engine. I have seen tons of people swear by Arc, but I am seriously asking (since as a Linux user I can't use it), how much good can a browser be in this day and age if ultimately it's ad blocking breaks and it will since Manifest v2 will go soon(unless Arc folks have a solution for it)

The rest alternatives are Firefox, Zen (FF fork but honestly Atleast this was something new I learned from this article) and Tor (which is weird since it is not meant for normal web browsing and using it will not only be slow but put additional strain on the nodes, correct me if I am wrong).

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Great opportunity to mention Brave is owned by a dipshit right-wing homophobe.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Always has been.

Right beside the fact that their monetary model relies on user activity tracking. Yet they advertise privacy.

A browser that had a seemingly unlimited budget for advertising before it even had users is suspicious as hell.

I've never trusted brave.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And funded by a right-wing billionaire who owns the largest corporate intelligence agency on the planet. Your data is not safe with Brave.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Except your data not being safe with Brave doesn't depend on who owns it. It's a technical conclusion that should follow from technical traits of a system. Those are such that using a modern web browser to do modern web things is not secure period.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

You identify as a liberal politically, don't you?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

Firefox
Firefox
Firefox
Firefox derivatives
...

[–] Madbrad200 95 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This list to me feels like AI trying to average the commoner internet

And the comments here really show it

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Eww opera, at least it's slightly better than opera gx

Edit: TOR? I stopped treating this guy seriously once I read this. Nobody uses TOR for regular browsing. They're full of shit.

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[–] [email protected] 107 points 2 days ago (17 children)

I switched from Firefox to Floorp and haven't looked back. Less bloated, same features, haven't found an extension that isn't compatible yet.

Same with Fennec on Android.

This article is pretty poor overall. Why recommend Arc, a browser that requires a user account to even open a webpage, and which the author himself said will probably be disappearing in the near future as part of their own product strategy?

Lame clickbait aimed at nobody.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Of that list, Zen is the only one really worth considering. And then you have the “but the best one that supports widevine” issue.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Firefox is still great, and Tor Browser is fantastic.

I'm personally checking out Mullvad Browser.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Tor is good for onion sites, but do people use it for general web browsing? Wouldn't it be super slow?

[–] sugar_in_your_tea 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, and you should too because more "natural" traffic helps protect people who need it (journalists, political dissidents, etc). For mostly text content, it's fine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Sure, if you want to wait 3 minutes for your all-text site to load.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea 1 points 8 hours ago

It's not that bad, it's a handful of seconds.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Yes basically unusable in my experience.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Its actually pretty important that some normal traffic does flow through tor. If you dont mind the speed then its perfectly okay* to do all your web browsing through tor

*there are some caveats here but its not about the network really

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Me using Firefox until Orion comes out:

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Orion will be restricted to Apple ecosystems, no?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

It currently is, but they are shipping a Linux version this year.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Honestly I wish Kagi would build their own full Firefox fork and maintain it independently. I already pay for search, I wouldn't mind paying for my browser if it actually respected me!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

mullvad's browser is based on firefox.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Hm...not sure, if I want to support another Webkit browser

We need more diversity in web engines

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ironically, I could not reach the end of the list because the fucking ads kept reloading the page and scrolling me to the top. Anyone know which of these 6 would block that?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Anything Firefox based with uBlock origin. Don't see a single ad or anything on mine.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Opera is and always was trash.

[–] [email protected] 98 points 2 days ago (6 children)

I beg to differ, when Opera had its own engine and wasn't Chinese owned - back in the early '00s.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Opera was so good. Disable images, force custom CSS, gestures! Stuff no one else had at the time.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Opera also was a good alternative on Symbian phones right or whatever OS Nokia used before they switched to Windows Phone, I think.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

this era of the internet was such a fun time.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago (4 children)

As someone who used Opera 2002-2013 (Presto era), I quibble with the "always".

But I do not quibble with the "is".

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

I loved opera back then.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 days ago

ZDnet 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I didn't see Waterfox mentioned in the article or comments, so I'm giving it a shout out now. Firefox is still my #1 browser, which I have synced to all my critical accounts, and use very cautiously, only using a few trustwothy extensions. However, when I want to explore unfamiliar domains or experiment with lesser-known browser extensions, I've relied on the equally dependable Waterfox browser. It's fast, free, and 99% the same as Firefox except it's a completely different app so you can basically have 2 Firefoxes set up and customized for completely different roles. Between the two, I can keep Chrome frozen on my phone and off my desktop (although I have a portable Chromium on USB for emergencies).

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

You do know Firefox has profiles you can use to effectively make it two (or more) separate browsers?

Not shitting on Waterfox, just FYI.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This is just a list of browsers with apparently good tab management.

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