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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I never liked Windows 10, I had way too many issues with it. However, so many companies rely on old versions of Windows and it takes them years to upgrade to the latest version. The machines I use at work still have Windows 10 installed because the software we rely on isn't compatible with Windows 11 yet. This whole "trade in your old PC for a new one" is ridiculous. Thankfully there's many Linux distros that work with older hardware so you don't need Windows!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

When management doesn’t want to upgrade from XP because it still works

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

My highschool PCs had XP for as long as at all possible. They switched them to some beginner friendly Linux after. Way to go.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Hah. Good luck trying to make me dispose of the computer I built almost a decade ago and that I just upgraded. Neither my laptops nor my phones have outlived this baby.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago (7 children)

I'm not using windows, but apple does the same thing. My OS is 9 versions old because they won't let me upgrade without buying a new computer.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Will installing / using this reset or format the Mac? I mean, as a first time install thing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Believe so, yes. You have to clean install the OS with a installer made using the tool.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Ah ok. Thanks!

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Always wandering why it isn' t possible for Microsoft to maintain their version and update all along. Linux can do it, Android can do it. I' m not sure about Apple. I switched to Linux years ago and I'm still most satisfied about my choice. My current laptop is from 2009 and can still go on for years. That is what you call sustainability

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

But then the People wouldnt pay for it over and over again?

People are way less willing to pay for updates than for whole new versions.

Apple and companies using Android are selling hardware, not software like Microsoft.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sustainable products are not profitable products. Look at what happened to Tupperware.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 days ago (3 children)

If you are living on the coast and the water is rising due to climate change, just sell your house and move.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Sell their houses to who, Ben? Fucking Aquaman?!

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Users to microsoft: "You're creating a huge pile of garbage out of perfectly fine devices because of unneeded hardware requirement"

microsoft: "It's ok, just buy a new one"

Rarely have a message gone through so bad.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Funny because people still use Windows 7 in large quantities across the world.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Trading in a PC.... in 2025? To who? Where? What time period, even? They must be thinking it's still 1985, and you can trade in your IBM Compatible to your nearest IBM Distributor.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago

Actually you can get the IoT Enterprise LTSC here and do your windows thing until 2032

https://massgrave.dev/windows_ltsc_links

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How much could a new PC be Michael, $10?

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (7 children)

jokes on them i just erased my windows and put mint on it

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 days ago (5 children)

And I now I use Linux. Will never go back to Windows after this nonsense.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

Can MS be sued by EU for this? There was the thing with USB-C, because E-waste, and now the most used Desktop-OS says "just throw your PC away" for a not really needed (and artifically defined) requirement.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 days ago

This is kinda funny, just thinking someone believes you can "trade in" a PC at all. Even more so when they are trying to say those same Windows 10 machines will be so useless you need to trade them in in the first place, making the value of such a trade in what, next to nothing?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Linux users tell Microsoft to just get over it, dump your parasitic software and start over, because how hard can it be?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

As someone who did exactly this a year and a half or so ago: so much easier than you think.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

As hard as plugging in a USB with OS and follow instructions.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Trade in to whom, to Linux users?.. Actually a good idea, not sure MS understood which almost logically complete advice they gave.

[–] [email protected] 132 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Trade in their PCs to who? Fucking Aquaman?

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[–] [email protected] 153 points 3 days ago (7 children)

It's one new PC, Michael. How much could it cost? $10?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

Linux/BSD blah blah blah

[–] [email protected] 113 points 3 days ago (3 children)

October is going to be a great month to get a cheap second hand computer.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 days ago

Oh sure, why not throw a perfectly functional $1,300 into a shredder so we can make Microsoft happy? Oh yeah, I know, because fuck you Microsoft.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 3 days ago (13 children)

So, uh... You gonna trade me a better machine for my current one, Microsoft?

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[–] [email protected] 103 points 3 days ago (20 children)

Translation: "Install Linux."

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (3 children)

W10 wouldn't get past the pin screen (type pin, then black screen forever, nothing else), so I used a live boot disk of fedora to rescue my files (turns out you can just bypass windows pins and mount the drive), then installed fedora on my old toshiba satellite and never looked back. Few years in I upgraded with linux in mind and now am cruising with a Framework 16. No regrets.

Join us! Cast off your shackles! Microsoft has no power over you beyond what you willingly give them!

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