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In the piece — titled "Can You Fool a Self Driving Car?" — Rober found that a Tesla car on Autopilot was fooled by a Wile E. Coyote-style wall painted to look like the road ahead of it, with the electric vehicle plowing right through it instead of stopping.

The footage was damning enough, with slow-motion clips showing the car not only crashing through the styrofoam wall but also a mannequin of a child. The Tesla was also fooled by simulated rain and fog.

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[–] Cantaloupe877@lemmy.world 42 points 2 days ago (3 children)
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[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 24 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (11 children)

To be fair, if you were to construct a wall and paint it exactly like the road, people will run into it as well. That being said, tesla shouldn't rely on cameras

Edit: having just watched the video, that was a very obvious fake wall. You can see the outlines of it pretty well. I'm also surprised it failed other tests when not on autopilot, seems pretty fucking dangerous.

[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I'd take that bet. I imagine at least some drivers would notice something sus' (due to depth perception, which should be striking as you get close, or lack of ANY movement or some kind of reflection) and either

  • slow down
  • use a trick, e.g. flicking lights or driving a bit to the sides and back, to try to see what's off

or probably both, but anyway as other already said, it's being compared to other autopilot systems, not human drivers.

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The video does bring up human ability too with the fog test ("Optically, with my own eyes, I can no longer see there's a kid through this fog. The lidar has no issue.") But, as they show, this wall is extremely obvious to the driver.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 16 points 2 days ago (4 children)

The tesla would lose its shit if it sees this

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[–] Ulrich_the_Old@lemmy.ca 30 points 2 days ago

If you own a tesla or a cybertruck you deserve it.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 190 points 3 days ago (16 children)

I wondered how the hell it managed to fool LIDAR, well...

The stunt was meant to demonstrate the shortcomings of relying entirely on cameras — rather than the LIDAR and radar systems used by brands and autonomous vehicle makers other than Tesla.

[–] Weirdfish@lemmy.world 162 points 3 days ago

If I could pass one law, requiring multiple redundant scanning tech on anything autonomous large enough to hurt me might be it.

I occasionally go to our warehouses which have robotic arms, autonomous fork lifts, etc. All of those have far more saftey features than a self driving Tesla, and they aren't in public.

[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 133 points 3 days ago (12 children)

The tl;dr here is that Elon said that humans have eyes and they work, and eyes are like cameras, so use cameras instead of expensive LIDAR. Dick fully inside car door for the slam.

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[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 117 points 3 days ago (40 children)

Why would a car that expensive not have a LiDAR sensor?

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