Imagine bombing the shit out of a country with the GDP of that aircraft carrier upkeep.
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The value of the weapons used exceeds the value of the buildings destroyed by at least one order of magnitude.
"American warship, go fuck yourself!"
This might get interesting. Where did I put the popcorn?
I got some right here. I too want this to be a Friday so I can just get comfortable in the couch. Gotta watch me some hithues do whatever huthirs do in Summer!
Guys this was always a bad idea, but like right now especially this seems like a very bad choice to make. Christ knows we're looking to make an example out of some more brown people....
What do you think the US has been doing in yemen for the last twenty years?
There hasn't been a week in the last twenty years where US bombs haven't killed yemeni civilians.
so the houthi plan is?
Bad...?
indeed, i've discovered all terrorism is ok in the defense of gaza
.... You doing okay?
good thanks, you?
Better for knowing you're alright, really.
I think it's been established that the Houthis are not afraid of American imperialism. I mean they're part of the Axis of Resistance, not the Axis of Acquiescence.
The BGM-109 does not care whether or not you are afraid of American imperialism. It knows this because it knows where it isn't, by subtracting where it is, from where it isn't. And where it isn’t, but wants to be, is you.
The Houthi drone and ballistic missile do, however, care how much they're afraid of American imperialism. They certainly seem to be willing to pick that fight.
If a movement doesn't understand the difference between picking one's battles and acquiescense it's cause is already long lost.
The rate at which the trump admin is willing to turn Resistance Fighters into Martyr Paste is unsustainable for everyone except the trump admin. Antagonizing that administration now, during one of it's many fits of impotent self-importance, is going to end in more dead civilians than if you'd just waited a few days for it's idiot attention span to burn out. It's not a war of attrition based on the competing political wills of two populaces any more, its an abhorent massacre overseen by a psycho. The name of the game is no longer 'Defeat or Drive Out', its 'Survive'.
The Houthis possess over plan B: flatten all Saudi oil reserves and refineries and collapse the global economy.
Ultimately it is the Houthis holding the cards here. Though most Americans do not seem to know it.
The Houthis possess over plan B: flatten all Saudi oil reserves and refineries and collapse the global economy.
Fucking lmao.
As contentious statements go, "The average american does not posess even an abstract understanding of the political and economic realities present in the mid. east" is one I wouldn't even consider objecting to.
Sure but claiming that America, a net energy exporter would have cards held over them because of Saudi oil is a bit silly. America wouldn't be as "touched" by this as you both seem to claim.
The fall of the saudi oil fields would lead to the weakening of opec, and thus the already precarious nature of the petro dollar, a cornerstone of american financial hegemony, would be scooted just that much closer to the edge of collapse. But it is gross understatement to say the politics of this region cannot be accurately summarized in a lemmy comment.
I don't disagree that there's a lot riding on that house of cards, but as you pointed out the stakeholders in keeping that up are nearly every global state. Do the Houthis really hold any cards when they're under that microscope?
I imagine attacking a target that could literally collapse the world economy would be slightly harder than flying drones at a very expensive boat.
Edit: The petrodollar is all but phased out by Saudi Arabia. I don't think that current US financial interests are anywhere near as coupled to those oil fields (compared to just a few years ago).
But... they're attacking said world-collapsable superpower precisely by flying drones at boats. But US geopolitical ties to the House of Saud really are too complex to summarize in a lemmy comment!
So that said, a summary in a lemmy comment: The regional power of the US is very much tied to the stability of Saudi power in the region, which is itself tied to approx. three thousand years of political infighting, outfighting and just general fighting. Its complicated, but our bases alone in the region are dependent on keeping the Saudis in power, and are a huge US consideration.
Idk what realizable power the houtis have, I haven't actually been arguing for them being in what you may call a "good position" since the start of this. All I think is that grabbing the attention of an unstable lunatic is probably a bad idea when he's the head of an operation that can casually warcrime hundreds of your people when not even really trying. Focusing that attention on yourself when you're the aggressors is... only going to end badly, and I wish they acted like they knew that.
There's been more than enough death already without pouring fuel onto the funeral pyres, and as much as I'd like to stop the killing on the "killing" side, that's proving really hard.
Isn't Martyr Paste the stuff that brought down the WTC? If they keep making more and more of it, it's inevitably going to end up on their faces.
9/11 was a fantastic success for fascists, there's never been so much sweeping support for surveillance and racism. No reason to stop killing the geese that bleed the golden paste...
It’s going to be wall-to-wall shocked pikachu in American media when the most incompetent bunch of military leaders the US has ever had makes a mistake and one of their aircraft carriers gets sunk.
I'm reasonably sure that the level of leadership that's running carriers is still mostly competent.
Of course, President Musk might decide to go down there and take personal charge of the carrier group. That might be fun.
No doubt, but for how long is the question. And “There are too many ships together, I want them separated them so that we can control more area. We need one near Crimea, I heard from a friend. Disable all the electric plane lifts as well, we’ll have only the best gas powered lifts from now on. Also, put a destroyer near my beautiful golf course in Scotland so they know I mean business.”
American media has been largely portentious of the loss of a major strategic asser whilst under Trump's care, but you do make a good point...
Let's hope that doesn't happen because oh boy, the consequences would be significant.
Don't touch the boats - Japan learned that the hard way
Also I love HLC he comes up with the best bits.
I won't pretend I know what, if anything, is going on in the Houthi leadership's heads, but I doubt it's that simple. As a government without much international recognition, there's a good chance they can't just afford to look weak, for example. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
Dudes, what did we say about 'muricas boats?
I understood this reference
Could you enlighten us uncultured people?
In the meantime, related:
Seems you understood the spirit of it.
There's this classic
And then this dude cosplaying as the US from Polandball
It's sad that thanks to shitrael the US is the Evil Empire and the Houthis are the Rebel Alliance.
Always has been, actually the North Vietnamese were the rebel alliance according to Lucas, but the US has always been the bad guys in that media franchise.
Undying support for Israel has always been part of it, but it was never the reason. The United States has never not been a colonialist empire.
Still. The fact that the US would rather burn resources not to mention it's global facade of being a benign hegemon propping up a genocidal apartheid state instead of focusing on it's strategic interests is baffling.
Also shoot at the moon now that you're at it.. What did they expect to happen?
The US wastes a few hundred million shooting down a few hundred dollars worth of missiles and drones, the us then wastes a few hundred million bombing yemeni civilians, increasing the number of houthis and encouraging monetary support to be given to the houthis.
They've been playing the US for over a decade and have learned from all the dozens of other people that have militarily beat the US how exactly to do it.