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Not because DDG got better, but just because google got worse.

google is still better for site-specific searches, and google scholar still has minimal AI slop

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[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

I use QWANT but I have the same feeling tbh. Or maybe Google search has been worsening I'm not too sure..

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

I like DDG a lot more, especially because of the bang shortcuts. But I transitioned recently to Qwant. It also has bang shortcuts and is hosted in Europe.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Google kind of went downhill

[โ€“] cantstopthesignal 3 points 2 months ago

Kind of? It went Paul Rudd in Mac and Me.

[โ€“] yata 4 points 2 months ago

I switched to it a couple of years ago, with the expectation that I had to resort to google in more complex search instances. But very soon I found out that ddg did the job, and my "alternative" google searches did not turn up anything better, quite the contrary in fact, and I haven't been back since.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

yeah honestly I've been using ddg for a very long time and while a few years ago I had to frequently !g because search sucked now google got so enshittified many times ddg feels better

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Better usually in my experience. Google is mostly SEO-sludge anyway. Though sometimes when you need something very specific Google is better but that gap has been pretty much closed during 7+ years Iโ€™ve used DDG.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It's not as good as google was when I was first allowed to use the internet 15+ years ago, but much better than today's google. Just so much more peace of mind to know that profit isn't what governs my search results.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I use Startpage and it feels like I always get the results I want even when I don't use perfect prompts. Just recently I got a three month free trial for Kagi and the results were better than google in my opinion, or at least less cluttered with "possibly related things" that are just ads in the end.

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[โ€“] turnip 3 points 2 months ago

I use Yandex for finding pirated or otherwise censored content.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Definitely not; DDG has always been bad. However, as others have pointed out, Google is getting worse and every day. That said, it's still better than DDG, which isn't saying much.

There are no good search engines anymore. I got tired of having to add site:reddit.com to all or my searches to get actual answers, so now I've resorted to using AI and pretending that it isn't just making up half the shit it spews. Perplexity is a half decent replacement for a search engine; it's more accurate than most and it cites its sources:

https://lemmy.world/post/26764870

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Have you tried Kagi? They have their problems, but I think it's better than Google.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

I'd say the same. Google dorks work much better than DDG's filters for site-specific stuff, and generally for things like "search term" but for general searches DDG seems pretty similar.

The only things I've also had worse performance from DDG on compared to Google (in very minimal ways) has been:

  • Highly specific searches (e.g. searching for a diagram of the dimensions of common connector types, DDG shows side-by-sides of connectors, Google does that but also with more diagrams that have dimensions in them)
  • Context but not keyword based searches (e.g. "thing that has x y and z characteristics" returns more relevant results in Google than DDG, very marginally)

And of course, there's always the !s bang to run a search through Startpage (which uses Google) if I'm not getting enough detail.

[โ€“] zarkanian 3 points 2 months ago

It has been for several years now. I rarely use Google now, and when I do, I'm using it out of DuckDuckGo (!g)

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

no. i switch to using it as my primary search engine every once in a while, just to see how it's doing. i always run into situations where i can't find the thing im looking for. maybe im just the obscure searches man

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

I feel like its better than google. I switched to DDG a couple years ago. 6 months ago I did a trial run with a self hosted search that only used google as a back end, the results felt like garbage

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Probably so. Haven't used it much but Google has got so much worse. Being filled with adds and irrelevant results that DuckDuckgo probably is better now.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

That's a low bar, google sucks now

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