this post was submitted on 07 Mar 2025
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Their lives most likely peaked already and they know everything is going to get worse later, so if you really love and care about the child you tell to go away and bully alongside your older children you actually spend time with, then you should let them go. What is the point of growing up as a joke and continuing to be a joke? Living out of spite gets tiring when literally everyone is rooting for you to fail.

You most likely did not want a(nother) child, and that should be no one's problem. Not yours, and most importantly not the child's. The child also shouldn't be tossed in a cruel game of hot potato for the rest of their life where more people abuse and bully them for fun. If everyone wants the kid gone including the kid themselves then what is the issue? Life only gets better for people who are loved and wanted.

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[โ€“] actionjbone 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

You're not thinking about this from an economic standpoint.

As a child grows, it's body becomes larger, meaning the body will contain more flesh, bones, fat, etc.

Additionally, once the child is fully grown, its cells do not continue to expand in size, meaning there's less rapid cellular division - and therefore less risk of cancer.

Not to mention all the labor it could be forced to do over the course of its life.

No, from a purely economic standpoint, I'd have to disagree. Not only will the summation of flesh increase in quantity (and therefore price per pound), but the flesh will become more stable and therefore more valuable.

Once you add in the value of potential labor, it's of much greater benefit the force a child to live a miserable existence.

Now, if you're talking about children with traumatic brain injuries or other flaws that prevent them from controlling their bodies? Yeah, they aren't going to be worth nearly as much so it's better to use their meat to feed better stock.

[โ€“] southsamurai 1 points 2 days ago

Well, there's two things I think you're overlooking.

First is that a child's brain needs time the get to the point where it's realistic for them to exercise their right to death.

While it's debatable whether or not it's good to suspend rights until adulthood, or near adulthood is reached, it is standard practice. Since the concept of informed consent exists, and children do have reduced ability to make informed choices the younger they are, there would have to be a cutoff point of some kind, even if it was lower than most people would find acceptable to begin with.

As such, lifting that suspension of the right to death for children, when it isn't even always accessible to adults that can, reasonably, make an informed decision just isn't practical on any level. So they shouldn't be allowed to exercise that right, at least at present.

The second aspect is that a child cannot reasonably exercise that right by themselves. While it is entirely possible for even very young children to take their own lives, taking it in a way that leaves their organs viable would require adult, medical intervention.

So, the child would be asking someone else to kill them. By any normal standard, taking the life of a child that is not terminally ill would be unacceptable. One can argue that taking the life of an adult in that situation is bad enough, but in order for a child to make that choice, someone is going to have to either lack a conscience, or set all of their principles aside.

Since the person lacking a conscience couldn't be trusted enough to only take part in approved ending of lives, that is an unacceptable option. Since someone that does have a conscience would have to be compelled or outright forced to perform the act, it's not just unacceptable, it's cruel to a degree worse than whatever pain might be caused by refusing an otherwise healthy child their right to death.

I'm sure, based on the body text of your post, that you feel the child should have a right to choose to end their life, and would not be convinced otherwise. So, this comment is directed specifically at the title itself, wherein organ donation is a criteria.

Organ donation requires that the death occur in a way, at a time, that the organs are sustained until they can be removed and transported. There is simply no realistic way to kill oneself that can guarantee that possibility. Even adults that have tried to achieve that goal fail almost universally, and they have to choose means of doing so that a child could not successfully arrange on their own. It's a matter of access and physical limitations. So the only realistic way to do it means someone trained is going to have to do the job. There's absolutely no way around that limitation because once cell metabolism starts shutting down, organ viability fades way faster than someone could be transported to a hospital.

Organ viability isn't even a guarantee when death occurs with medical support on hand, things can go wrong. And even the best EMTs and paramedics out there can only do so much in the field, so the chances are already pretty damn low if you aren't right there in a hospital with all the technology available.

There are also arguments against allowing a child to exercise their right to death that aren't about the practicality of organ viability, but I don't think you really want your mind changed at all, much less about your own pain that leads you to want this option. So I won't waste your time with those.

I will extend the same offer I did in your other post, that if you do want advice or alternate perspectives, I'll give mine. But I'm not going to blow smoke up your ass, or waste either of our times otherwise, beyond also saying that I hope you discover a reason to hope again, and that your life gets better.