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[-] [email protected] 292 points 10 months ago

NVIDIA rep created an account to make this post

AMD rep was already an active member of the community

Unsurprising, yet it still speaks volumes.

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[-] [email protected] 168 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

This might be the first time I've ever seen something productive happen in the Phoronix forums. I love that place. Go to any topic with more than about a dozen posts and it's almost guaranteed to be a flame war. Genuinely one of the funniest places on the Internet.

Check out this one. It took like three posts!

[-] [email protected] 90 points 10 months ago

The phoronix forums are insanely toxic. Everything is bad. Gnome = kid's toy. systemd = written by Satan himself. Every programming language = too slow. Anything vaguely interested in fostering a diversity, equity, and inclusion = true colors come out in full force.

It's so toxic yet I subject myself to it every now and again. There's absolutely no moderation going on and it shows.

[-] [email protected] 57 points 10 months ago

Any post mentioning Wayland or btrfs is guaranteed to have at least 60 comments

[-] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago

Obviously. X11 and ZFS are far superior. I use Arch, btw.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

It's super confusing, like I feel many commenters there live in a different universe. They talk about how Wayland is a failure that has failed to get off the ground, while it's the default in most of the major distros at this point.

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[-] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

Once in a while I venture their forums as a morbid curiosity and it always delivers.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

There is some, but unless it gets really uncivilized no action really gets taken. a couple users have been banned

IMO I prefer it that way myself though. you either learn something neat, or engage in a class shittery. lots of other more polite forums such as this if phoronix forums isn't to taste

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[-] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago

Fyi, you've linked to page 4, here's where it starts.

I hope the phoronix forums never die

[-] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago

Man, that guy really likes X11.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

Any "X11 vs Wayland" discussion will eventually devolve into a fight beteeen diehard X11 fans and diehard Wayland fans, lol.

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[-] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago

That's hilarious.

"Mozilla is allowing you the option to build Firefox without X11 dependencies"

"Mozilla hates freedom!!!"

[-] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago

I got to page 3 before I couldn't take it anymore and had close 🤣

Nice

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[-] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

Especially when the original article is about anything related to Rust. An hour after the article is live you'll have 50 posts arguing and trolling like there's nothing more important in the whole wide world. So entertaining!

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[-] [email protected] 99 points 10 months ago

This is how the rest of the industry worked for years. Nvidia was just stuck in the past century.

[-] [email protected] 96 points 10 months ago

Behold! The power of open source!

[-] [email protected] 82 points 10 months ago

It's kinda wholesome ngl

[-] azvasKvklenko 75 points 10 months ago

NVIDIA is finally starting to play nicely with the community to help sort the driver mess out. Nouveau paired with NVK might actually be the future of NVIDIA graphics under Linux!

[-] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago

Might make me consider buying an Nvidia card in the future if they can get a reasonably performing and reliable in-kernel driver.

[-] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I still won't buy one just because of this news - they have done lots, lots of shitty things in the past. GameWorks, PhysX, Geforce Partnership Program, etc. While AMD is not exactly a saint when it comes to open sourcing, they still commit far more than Nvidia to open standards.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Nvidia has burned their reputation... Will take years to regain trust.

They are responsible for almost all issues new people have with Linux.

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[-] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago

They've been dicks for two decades, just playing a bit nicee doesn't really change anything. If they work properly with open source, and enable proper in kernel drivers for the next decade or so I might consider buying something nvidia.

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[-] [email protected] 51 points 10 months ago

forms

Two mistakes in one word.

[-] [email protected] 33 points 10 months ago

This is the most Phoronix forums like comment I have seen so far LOL

[-] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

Legends says that there is a forum post about an article that not begins with "typo:"

[-] [email protected] 39 points 10 months ago

All I see is two people failing their corporately mandated cyber security training at the same time.

[-] Ajen 31 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

If part of their job is working with the OSS community I don't see anything wrong (and I just finished my annual training a few weeks ago, so it's still fresh in my mind).

Edit: keeping an "official" repo secret does seem like an issue, but public posts about the correct process to contribute upstream doesn't seem like a problem.

[-] [email protected] 37 points 10 months ago
[-] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago

Does that mean we'll get more and better firmware updates? Please explain like I'm no firmware dev.

[-] [email protected] 45 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Not really. Instead of dumping all the drivers into one repo, there's now a separate repo just for GPU drivers, which is just a staging area, before they get merged into the main repo.

If you ask "why"? It's like creating an extra folder so that your files are organized better.

As an end user, it's not going to change anything for us.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

It does mean you are more likely to get eyeballs on your driver from other people doing graphics card driver work. That usually results in higher quality and a higher likelihood of catching issues.

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[-] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

This is the way

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