this post was submitted on 28 Feb 2025
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They're the things we carry with us, the things that make us who we are. If we lose them, we lose ourselves. I don't want my ~~pain~~ privacy taken away. I need my ~~pain~~ privacy!

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Because you are the product

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

Sokath, his eyes opened.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Data, Mozilla has issued a ruling. You are the property of Firefox. You can not opt-out.

Grimace

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

tbh that just reinforces my growing distrust of the direction they are headed

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They are just covering their butts legally against someone suing them for typing a URL into the URL bar.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No, they're not. No software company has ever needed legal cover for that and nothing changed in the legal landscape to create that need now. To pretend that there is such a need is to deliberately misrepresent the fundamental nature of what a product, such as software running locally on the user's machine, actually is.


The only justification for having ToS is if Mozilla is transforming Firefox into a service that depends on communication with Mozilla's servers themselves, which is absolutely not just "typing a URL into the URL bar!"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I think their blog makes it clear that it isn't them that's changing

Its that legal definitions are changing around them and they need to reflect that in their terms.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

No, that's what they claim, but it's bullshit. Even the most "broad and evolving" definition of "sale of data" still entails Mozilla having the data at all in the first place, and that's the bright red line they shouldn't be crossing!

If you want to get into the blog, here's the relevant part:

In order to make Firefox commercially viable, there are a number of places where we collect and share some data with our partners, including our optional ads on New Tab and providing sponsored suggestions in the search bar.

See that? That, right there: that's the entirely fucking unacceptable part!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

In a non-binding post they said that. In the ToS they say otherwise. "Here, sign this contract, I assure you it doesn't do what it says" is how literal scams work. Laws aren't changing anywhere, they are

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

you can skip the signature part (i signed it with a fake name cornelius flycatcher)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

As long as it’s in Debian, I’ll use it.