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Donald Trump has announced plans to impose 25% tariffs on the European Union, claiming the bloc was “formed to screw the United States.”

While details are pending, he suggested the levies would target cars and other imports. The EU, a major U.S. trading partner, has vowed immediate retaliation, with potential tariffs impacting $29.3 billion in exports.

French President Emmanuel Macron had attempted to dissuade Trump, urging focus on China instead.

Critics, including economists and conservative media, warn the tariffs could harm the U.S. economy.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Can someone explain to me why this is worse than Europes VAT tax?

According to an International Monetary Fund (IMF) study, any nation that switches to VAT initially feels the negative impact of reduced tax revenues. In the long run, however, the study concluded that VAT adoption has in the majority of cases increased government revenue and proved effective.

It seems to be proven quite effective, and Europe still has them, so why is Trumps worse/better than a VAT?

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I mean, we have retaliatory tariffs ready to go too, and I'm not sure they'd be any less damaging.

If we went nuclear shutting off power to New York and water to Seattle and Boise is a thing we could do.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Do it. I know some people in New York who could use a reality check.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

They backed off twice already. Its a joke at this point.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Twice? Are you thinking of the first term thing?

The last time, it really looked like he panicked when the Dow (predictably, to everyone else) fell. If he blinks every time, yeah, it's never going to actually happen, although I can't see him deciding that actually he's wrong about tariffs being awesome.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

He pushed it by a month again. Now its for sure actually defenitely gonna happen in April Im serious guys no really.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Uhh, this CBC story is from a couple hours ago: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trump-tariff-march-4-1.7469928

He was also talking about some kind of additional tariff on April 2nd. On the auto industry (that will be shut down if he follows through anyway), IIRC. That being said, as CBC noted elsewhere he himself is bad at keeping his threats straight.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Huh. There were some CBC articles floating around saying they were postponed again. I guess not? The articles are gone.

I feel like nobody knows wtf is going on.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago

I feel like nobody knows wtf is going on.

That's exactly what they want.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Water to Seattle? Is this legit because Seattle has no shortage of precipitation or water AFAIK.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Assuming their supply is related to the Colombia river system, yes. It looked like all of Washington was in the watershed in the map I saw.

How badly impacted they'd be by us messing with the upstream supply, I can't say.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 22 hours ago (6 children)

Would love to be in the guy's head for just 5 minutes, to see if he's high or crazy or what.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

see if he's high or crazy or what

Either compromised, or bought and paid for, is what he is.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

High and crazy, but mostly

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 22 hours ago

Other feasible options, yes!

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 day ago

The EU was setup to help protect Europe and enable them to have better control over overly enthusiastic capitalist companies such as those found in the US.

But what do we expect from a low intelligence puppet of Russia?

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I'm in the EU and I very much I hope he does, beause the response will be spectacular: apparently there is an Act from 2023 that the EU can respond to this by suspending intellectual property rights of US companies, plus from last time Trump was President the EU learned to target counter-Tariffs for maximum political effect (basically hitting Republican states hardest) and that will also work fine in targetting US companies politically affiliated with Trump (bye, bye, Tesla!).

Also it will definitelly finish off any lingering delusions of European politicians that the US is an "ally".

[–] [email protected] 4 points 18 hours ago

That would be great if another way to retaliate against US tariffs would be other countries officially hosting pirated US material for anyone to download. Make it extra easy for everyone to boycott American companies!

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 day ago

DO IT! COMON! DO IT! Make every european leader more alligned with the EU and push us more and more together and more indipendent again!

DO IT! SCARDY CAT

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Do it. See what happens to that beautiful country of yours. What do you even provide the world besides shitty tech like meta and microsoft?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago

Guns and superhero movies mostly.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

I believe Europe is importing quite some LNG, since we are weaning off Russia's gas teat

[–] SpermHowitzer 2 points 14 hours ago

Canada has quite a lot we can ship to Europe if you don’t want American LNG.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Trump is kinda right. Charles De Gaulle wanted a united Europe to prevent Anglo-American influence. Aside from his Anglophobia, he vetoed UK joining then EEC because he thought UK is a Trojan horse for American influence into Europe. He also thought that the British are reluctant Europeans anyhow, so why let them in?

Fast forward 60 years later, and De Gaulle was found right. US companies tried to lobby the EU through UK. The Brits voted for Brexit, and the US finally became an unreliable ally.

For so much of the French being chauvinistic in a cringey way, they are right not to commit to Anglo influence or Atlanticism, presciently. The French still likes to assert their own global influence but in multilateral way with other countries. Macron and De Gaulle are correct for looking for strategic autonomy.

Edit: I also want to add, that the Brussels effect forces other countries to adopt higher standards and regulations if they want to trade with the EU. Obviously, many right wing Americans such as Trump don't like this.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 day ago (15 children)

Brussels effects haters be like: "I really fucking hate USB type-C cables being on every device where it makes sense! I want to bo back to expensive and crappy proprietary cables only the original manufacturer is allowed to make!"

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago

You will plug in ze usb c and you will be happy

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago

Wake me when that pussy manages to even speak in his own cabinet meetings without elon interrupting.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

And the bloc of 50 united states was formed to screw the bloc of european union ?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Any attempts of anyone to do anything he doesn't like is an attempt to screw him in his eyes.

The EU's major effect isn't harm to the us but keeping France, England, and Germany from shooting each other

[–] [email protected] 168 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Surely this will lower egg prices!

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 day ago (5 children)

The EU was formed to screw the US... THE EU WAS FORMED TO SCREW THE US?! Bruh dude is possibly channeling Hitler and Stalin simultaneously. That's the only thing that makes sense. Or he's terminally dumb. One of the two.

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[–] Justas 143 points 1 day ago (14 children)

Inb4 EU and Canada signs a great trade deal just to screw over Trump.

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[–] [email protected] 123 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Time for Ukraine to join the EU quickly. Tariff his precious minerals.

Orange fuckwit.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago

food undercooked? tarriff!

Food overcooked? Believe it or not, tarriff!

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