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Enshittification

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What is enshittification?

The phenomenon of online platforms gradually degrading the quality of their services, often by promoting advertisements and sponsored content, in order to increase profits. (Cory Doctorow, 2022, extracted from Wikitionary) source

The lifecycle of Big Internet

We discuss how predatory big tech platforms live and die by luring people in and then decaying for profit.

Embrace, extend and extinguish

We also discuss how naturally open technologies like the Fediverse can be susceptible to corporate takeovers, rugpulls and subsequent enshittification.

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Can imagine making 30 k a year and having to pay even 1600 in taxes. This is saying it will increase that much.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago

Print, laminate and start ticking this up around your local town centre.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 hours ago

America, the home of enshittifiction!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

making 30 k a year and having to pay even 1600 in taxes

That's like 5.3%, could that be real? That would be ridiculously low. I just checked and with that same income I'd be paying 2480 in Germany, or 8.3%, and that's in taxes alone. After social insurances and health insurance the total deduction would be 6450 or 21.5% total.

[–] threeganzi 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I can’t say anything about the validity of the infographic but it says “increase up to” so it’s relative not absolute. So without knowing the current taxation it would be hard to say that tax is low, unless you think the increase is too low. Or am I missing something?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The text from the OP below the infographic was my point of reference, not the graphic itself.

[–] threeganzi 1 points 19 minutes ago

Ah, I get now what you mean. Fair point.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm speaking from the perspective if you're that close to or under the poverty line it does not help society to tax you any amount.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Google says the poverty line in the US is 13800, what am I missing?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

The actual real poverty line is going to be region dependent. If you grow up in a high income area and end up "only" making 30k a year before taxes, then you'll be either living with your parents or in your car.

As to why 1500 dollars extra taxes will break families earning 30000 a year: people and especially families have fixed expenditures needed to survive. After other taxes, rent, food, ... there is usually nothing left at the end of the month. Where are these people going to save 1500 dollars? So don't look at it as 1500 out of 30000, look at it as taking 1500 dollars from someone who has 0 dollars left.

Edit to add: that 1500 is not total taxes, it's extra taxes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Rules of exponents.

Or maybe just real world living.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago

America, the home of enshittifiction!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

Is this per household?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Solution: stop paying taxes.

[–] AlecSadler 8 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

I just started doing this for federal, not state, and I'm curious what happens.

I'll probably owe a little extra fee at EOY, but I'm not worried about that. They'll have to ask me for this money.

And then I'll probably try and get a payment plan. Just deny and delay as long as I can.

Because why not?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Because a defunded IRS will track easy fish like yourself and be quicker to fine you.

[–] AlecSadler 1 points 1 hour ago

I don't care. I struggle to even find accountants willing to do my taxes, I doubt underfunded IRS is going to want to tackle that mess.

And even if they do, I'm of multiple cultures that I'm damned if I do regardless, so might as well take that extra money and do some good with it while I can.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Pay it because if you don't pay it they might come and make you pay it? Poor argument.

[–] AlecSadler 1 points 1 hour ago

I'll pay it when I file, over time, slowly, but not from each and every check throughout the year.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago

Presidential!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Breaking News: trump signs into law 200% sales tax

[–] AlecSadler 1 points 1 hour ago

No sales tax, currently, where I live. So I would hope that'd see some pushback.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

These people have to live somewhere. Why is nobody killing them?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 hours ago (16 children)

Americans are brainwashed with an ideology of nonviolence

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 hours ago (9 children)

The population has been made isolated at the community level. There are very few local groups doing any reaction at all to this.

And violent reactions which are successful are a group action; it’s very seldom an individual, in any era of history, changed the politics by themselves.

And as long as there are no impromptu gatherings of significant frequency, there will be very little violence.

The internet is not a replacement for community driven change which powers all social and political movements, peaceful or not.

The turning point, if there is one, will be lots of local meetings by the thousands , and not until then. No matter how violent or passive the individuals be

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[–] skittle07crusher 29 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

IMAGINE GIVING A FUCK ABOUT $36K WHEN YOU MAKE NEARLY $1 MILLION / YR!!!

[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Imagine not pursuing all your hobbies and instead opressing minorities and waging war all around the world when you make 100 billion a year. First person to say that is elons interest, and that's valid, can stand in line behind him at the guillotine.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

If I had that kind of money, you'd never hear about me again. I'd just stay quiet and fund a whole lot of charities and scholarships.

[–] Croquette 5 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

You would never get that rich in the first place because you aren't a sociopath.

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