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Fearing political retribution, NOAA scientists now refuse to link warming weather to greenhouse gases (www.newscientist.com)

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In that context, Ho is sympathetic to the reasons climate scientists may not want to mention climate change, and to focus on something like air pollution instead. “It’s a safe thing to mention because it has nothing to do with climate change,” he says. “Air pollution is not one of the key words.”

“There’s a lot of uncertainty, there’s a lot of fear,” Ho adds. “And it shouldn’t be this way. Studying environmental sciences is about studying our life support system.”

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

"First they came for the climate scientists, and I did not speak out because I was not a climate scientist"

A hard truth for everyone in this thread: all of us who are doing anything less than actively resisting and defending them are complicit.

What are you, person reading this right now, personally going to do to help?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 hours ago

I've been to four protests so far, and the crowds are getting bigger. Not as big as they should be, but at the first protest there were half a dozen of us, and at the latest maybe a thousand.

Anyone is invited. It's invigorating to stand with other people who give a damn. Wear a warm jacket and leave your cell phone at home.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 22 hours ago

The truth les down in shame and failure. Defeated by the wealthy.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 23 hours ago

They decided to not be scientists anymore. BIG SHAME. SAD

[–] [email protected] 8 points 22 hours ago

Right wingers: see! They finally admitted it!

....

[–] [email protected] 6 points 22 hours ago

This should be their wakeup call to leave america

They need to leave if they are fearing for their lives

[–] [email protected] 5 points 21 hours ago

I can't hate on NOAA scientists (or CDC scientists) but the situation is intolerable, and they're in a really bad place. How do they keep those institutions going and also pick a fight with the deranged billionaires that can't wait to fire and sue them?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Use some other terms.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago

"alterations to atmospheric conditions"

12 syllables is more than MAGAts can figure out.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 23 hours ago

@silence7

Despicable cowardice.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 23 hours ago

Polution never caused any climate change. We imagined it. Just like we imagine that 2+2=4. It's silly really.