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[–] hellothere 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Morning Star, STW, and CND all showing their arses here. Fucking appeasement clowns.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'm sure appeasement will work this time!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Bro... Its just Ukraine man, who cares, just give them Estonia... Just a part of Poland bro... Why not.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Thank fuck some leaders aren't going down the "appease the dictator" route. The west has tried for decades to appease Russia, but it doesn't work. Dictators only see our appeasement efforts as weakness.

We tried for so long to welcome them with open arms. We traded with them, we built gas pipelines, we gradually disarmed over the 90s/2000s/2010s. We thought that by opening up to them that our "western values" – vague as that phrase may be – would spread... but we got nowhere. Only taken advantage of. There's no better political figure that embodies this than Merkel, but she was far from being alone in that naïve thinking.

The only way for lasting peace is for a pan-Europan defence committment. Peacekeepers stationed there is a good part of that.

Trump has made clear the US can't always be relied upon, so working closely with EU nations is a good move.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

pushing Nato membership for Ukraine has been a key driver of this conflict and has increased the threat of nuclear war

Nice to see the star reposting .ml/lemmygrad rhetoric. I'm amazed the interviewees didn't claim that the invasion was inevitable and actually fine because yhere are neo Nazis in Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

pushing Nato membership for Ukraine has been a key driver of this conflict and has increased the threat of nuclear war.

What absolute fucking nonsense is this?

Ukraine were not going to get NATO membership, because that was what was agreed. Literally the reason it's become a viable option is due to Russia invading Ukraine. THAT is the driver. It's been shown that Russia will invade Ukraine regardless of NATO membership, because they've already done it.

Russia can fuck off along with all the American Nazi's.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's because that's the narrative the Moscow puts out. And tankies eat it up, and regurgitate it verbatim without a second thought.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Completely agree.

I think it's important to make sure we point out the absolute bullshit narrative whenever this stuff is posted.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Capitulation to aggressors does not work.

Of course this is posted by someone saying to not vote during the 2024 presidential election.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Well US is negotiating on behalf of Russia, it would be nice if Europe stepped on behalf of Ukraine like

This whole Ukraine situation really makes the "free world" looks like limp dick cucks that scared of their own shadows.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

I don't feel safe in this world no more. I don't want to die in a nuclear war.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

That's a great one, although I was quoting from this Kinks song:

https://youtu.be/BBVAS8qNZZI

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Russia is not going to stop at Ukraine.