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    [–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    I’m new to Linux and I was troubleshooting some audio issues and yeah I ended up uninstalling GNOME. Oops.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

    I once tried to uninstall every package to do with Wine but sudo apt remove wine* wrecked the system past the point a high schooler could recover it

    [–] [email protected] 81 points 4 days ago (8 children)

    Wrong OS, that's Windows.

    Since Pipewire came around that means. Before… well… let's not talk about the collective Pulseaudio trauma.

    [–] [email protected] 18 points 4 days ago

    Oh god, I had such weird issues with audio on my manjaro desktop with pulseaudio ... Never touched anything related to sound on that system again, out of fear everything would break down again. I didn't switch to pipewire until years later.

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    [–] [email protected] 60 points 4 days ago (4 children)

    Pulseaudio. For a long time my Sony headphones had no working mic. Then one magical update, I had full HSP as well as A2DP sink. It was amazing - I could take teams calls without having to change headsets!

    Then one not-so magical update, poof it just went. I tried to scour the bug list in pulseaudio to find anyone who had experienced the same but found the bugtracker impossible to navigate without a login account.

    So now I wait, and update, and pray for an update that restores this feature.

    [–] [email protected] 20 points 4 days ago (3 children)

    Just use a decently recent distro or update to pipewire (and recent kernel). Pulseaudio is basically not where the good things are done anymore. It's been more than a year or 2 already that the sony phones have microphone working properly.

    It is a hard moving bunch of pieces that needed to be in place. The user libraries (pulseaudio or pipewire) the bluez stack and the kernel. For a while things were almost working on the first parts but there were problems on the kernel side then the kernel received patches and it finally was able to support the good audio codec.

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    [–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago (6 children)

    The answer is PipeWire. It's a drop-in replacement for PulseAudio that works.

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    [–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    once an update took away all of my sound devices in mint. had to roll back a few times and update a few packages at a time to find which freedesktop update broke it, then blacklisted it. that was the only time mint broke anything by itself.

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    [–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    I manually disabled HSP in pulseaudio. I'd rather use an external mic than subject myself to the atrocious audio quality of HSP.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

    But it's a profile you can switch away from quite nicely using pavucontrol

    [–] [email protected] 27 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

    I lose sound so much more in Windows. I love it when it thinks an HDMI monitor is the main sound even though I never selected it and have to change it back a few times a year. (work computer)

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    You can fix this issue if you right-click the sound icon down in the corner of your screen and choose "sounds" from the list. Then in the first tab in the window that opens up you can find and disable the monitor as a sound device from being used and defaulted to at random on startup.

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago

    but when the sound drivers get updated, it seems to make its own choices unless you disable it in the device manager

    [–] Threeme2189 7 points 3 days ago

    It re-enable them on my work laptop for some reason.

    [–] [email protected] 34 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    Anecdotally, I've had way more audio issues in Windows than I've had in Linux.

    Linux audio setups don't always work out-of-the-box, and sometimes require a bit more configuration, but once you get them set up the way you like, they stay that way.

    Windows audio configuration is flaky as hell. It's constantly changing with updates, and I've had so many issues with drivers just silently failing. It seems to have the most trouble with discrete sound cards and USB audio interfaces. I can't tell you how many Discord and Teams calls I've had in Windows where the first 5 minutes is re-configuring audio settings that didn't stick. This is basically a non-issue in my Linux setups.

    macOS audio is probably the best combination of easy to configure and it works consistently. The biggest downside is that you need a lot of 3rd party software to do anything more advanced than setting a single device and volume for the entire system.

    Note: I primarily use pipewire now. I used to have more problems back when I used pulseaudio.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    I have no idea why Pulse is so bad. During my last foray into Linux, I created a shortcut for killing and restarting Pulse and pinned it to the dock. I also replaced all my game shortcuts with scripts that reinitialized pulse, then ran the game, then reinitialized pulse again when the game was closed.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

    I hate to be this guy, but after being mad that Pop OS now defaults to pipewire, it's pretty fucking nice. It's stable and a little annoying to configure, but it works so much better than pulse. Perhaps consider switching?

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

    My current distro also uses pipewire and I've had no issues. I haven't even needed to configure anything. I originally went to Linux when my XP install died and I couldn't afford a Win7 license. I was happy enough with Win10 to migrate to that when it came out, and now that Microsoft is forcing people onto Win11 I'm back to Linux as my primary. Pipewire and Proton really took Linux from 'good enough' to 'actually quite nice'.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

    Like, yeah. When you have everything working as it should, Linux runs smoothly and there are no more complications. But it's a real pain in the ass that initial configuration, especially for newbies like me a couple of years ago.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

    Thank you for pointing that out! Exactly the same for me

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

    i currently have something similar with video output: if i turn off my monitor and turn it back on too fast (or if i disconnect/reconnect it), now there is no more picture, and i have to reboot per remote shell to get it back.

    oh well, at least there's an open issue in some github about it, so it will be fixed sometime in the future.

    [–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    I've never had Linux sound issues I got no idea what u guys are always on about.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    Gotta distrohop more my dude. Reinstall your OS every week.

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    [–] girsaysdoom 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    I think a netbook I had in 2014 was the last time I had any audio problems.

    Has c/linuxmemes become c/excusestokeepusingwindows?

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    [–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    I heard that he wrote that song after visiting an underground mall in Japan. How gnarly was that mall, that it made Jamaroquai write a song about technology being fucked up?

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    Japan is in the 23th century already

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    In tech: maybe

    Other than that it often feels like 1950s America

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    Even in tech, there are things that probably haven't changed in the past 25 years

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    [–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

    In the Japanese zodiac it is the year of the Linux desktop.

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    After Windows 10 drops support, the only proprietary system left will be my Mac which I use for music. I’ll be damned if I’m going to try and get Ableton Live running in Wine with low latency. I really wish it wasn’t like that’s though.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    Bitwig Studio is what finally allowed me to fully switch to Linux instead of keeping a Mac just for using Ableton Live.

    [–] slackassassin 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    I'm messing with reaper right now and just got my daisychained firewire interface working. What sold you on bitwig? I'm interested, but I haven't looked into it yet.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    The simple fact that it was the closest thing I could find to the Ableton Live workflow I am used to that also natively supports Linux. I have since tried the FOSS DAW Zrythm, which is also Ableton-like. But I had some minor issues getting something working, so decided to just wait until it matures to put further effort into trying it out.

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    [–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago

    i don't have sound on Windows, so Linux will bot be hard to accomodate to then

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

    We all live underground

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

    sndio(8) moment.

    (With one HDMI-related exception, I have had no trouble with ALSA, JACK, OSS, PulseAudio, or Pipewire)

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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