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[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] mindbleach 2 points 3 days ago

RIP bash.org.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

the doctor.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 days ago (10 children)

Maybe work on making life less shitty so people don't drink more?

[–] Heliumfart 22 points 4 days ago

Pretty sure the WHO is working on that.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Got nuts, but if you're worried about people drinking to much work on making it easier to get by as working class. The shorter lifespan is just less getting crushed by the weight of my living expenses.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Surely shaming people and making them feel bad for their choices will work this time, not just cause more animosity in the world. People with drinking problems usually do so to escape something, to bad we can fix those underlying issues.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 5 days ago (35 children)

Ban all advertising for alcohol, too, please

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

You can't advertise alcohol on the TV in my country. Only exception is beer.

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[–] can 56 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (7 children)

Yes please. Sick of the double standard. Can't buy flavoured nicotine anymore but can still buy sickeningly flavoured liquor.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Wow! Finally! 🎉🎉 It's astonishing that it took so many decades. We knew, we always knew that alcohol causes cancer. Now we also know that the risk is significant from any amount. And of course, it's not just cancer.

Those labels, they really work. Like, the society to big extend quit smoking thanks to those labels.

Policies curbing smoking weren't popular at the time, people criticized them for being too much of an inconvenience and ineffective at the same time. But they really worked and our society became better and healthier because of them. Funny, how watching the debate about alcohol now, reading people's comment here, you can actually relive this experience now just years later. When people say "they should focus on X instead", and things like that, that's a form of denialism

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 days ago

We should be actively warning about and discouraging the consumption of demerit goods. Alcohol, cigarettes, vapes, SSBs, ultra processed food all completely destroy the health of communities all around the world. Not just in the States, but also in both developed and developing countries. We've seen study after study after study that these do nothing but make us addicted to slop that shortens our lifespan and makes us unhappy.

But the organization that is offering this advice cannot even act in the 3rd largest country in the world by population because of """misinformation""" from covid.

WHO basically fully prevented the Ebola outbreak in Nigeria, and it did not affect my parents. If WHO didn't act, I probably wouldn't be alive right now. To think that people genuinely think that leaving it is good goes against every line of thinking I have used in my entire life.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 5 days ago

I have no problem with that. We should be aware of the risks involved with our vices.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Isn't this already common knowledge? No one is drinking alcohol because they think it's good for you.

People: drink alcohol to help them survive being exploited under capitalism

WHO: "best I can do is tell you that you're going to die sooner"

Also, I don't know if anyone's researched this, but I'm 99% sure the stress chemicals your body generates from being a wage slave and living paycheck to paycheck your entire life are far more carcinogenic than alcohol. Maybe that should come with a label too.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

The facts are alcohol doesn't help anyone to survive shit. We know that it's the opposite, it makes life of people that consume it more miserable.

It instead accumulates together with the stress you experience within your life. It adds more stress, not removes it. Cancer is just one thing, but alcohol is very disrupting to your endocrine (hormones) system, mental health.

What you're doing is a form of denialism. That denialism comes precisely from what those labels are addressing. You're being constantly exposed to the image of alcohol as something to enjoy, a pleasure, relief. It's constantly reinforced by movies, TV shows, media, advertisements.

It's not about knowledge. It's about exposure. If you're constantly exposed to an image of alcohol as a positive thing in your life then you will deny it's impact despite the facts, science, and knowledge

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

The facts are alcohol doesn’t help anyone to survive shit

Hard disagree... I did it just last night.

Not everyone who drinks is an alcoholic.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago

There were a bunch of lies published by alcohol industry-backed groups about how a glass of red wine is good for your heart and shit. It probably would be helpful to bust those shitty myths.

[–] iz_ok 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The alcohol lobby is pretty strong in the US. Good thing we dropped out of WHO. Now we can poison ourselves in peace.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

The father of history I believe 4th century BC writes about some Greek mercenaries returning from an expedition in Persia, where one brother wanted his brother killed so he can become the king of Persia, and while walking North they came up on an #Armenian town where they were given food and shelter. He describes the hosts having some large ceramic containers with wine and "straws", where each drunk from the container.

Alcohol is pretty old, and so is its abuse. There is a difference though when a community collectively make wine for their own consumption and pleasure, and an industry mass producing something with toxic chemical additives to preserve and modify taste/flavor, and have an interest in "pushing" it to a larger and larger market. Same with drugs, and just about anything else. Just examine a woman's shampoo commercial, the movement, the background, the joy, of using it and tell me they are not resembling the experience to an LSD trip. The woman sudenly is out of her ugly apartment in smokey Chicago in the middle of winter and is running in slow motion in a field full of flowers in the sun, with colors flashing everywhere, her smiling with no reason ... purple haze ...

Reforming capitalism to be humane and environmentally friendly is just as much an illusion as it is toxic as a political agenda. It is not possible. You can't just slap warning label on grenades and then hand them off to kids to go play, then ask them to ship to Iraq to kill natives for the good of their "country". It is too risky to sell anti-inflamatory medication without prescription but it is ok to be paid 1/3 of what a marketing associate makes to go and repare lines during a hurricane .. because the elec.company needs to keep its record up of providing service 99.99% of the time. Or its stock price may drop!

WHO needs to go work on ebola epidemics and contain them, but also work on hunger, thirst, bacteria in wells and creeks, shelter, children vaccination, and stop teasing alcohol and tobacco companies for bribes and pocket support.

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