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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards

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Nazi lives DO matter according to the mods of [email protected] (lemmy.world)

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Not really "powertripping". Just pathetic. Consider this a notice to avoid feddit.org... I've unsubbed and blocked the instance.

We can't dehumanize fascists for their choice to dehumanize everyone for things outside their control though, because that would be mean, and hurt their sociopath feefees!

Europe stool idly by throughout the 1930's "tolerating" fascism, and the Nazi's killed over 100 million people. Don't make the same mistake as the radical centrists of history. Fascists will not afford you the same tolerance or courtesy.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

In germany we say 'heul leise' and i think this is beautiful.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (5 children)

One of the best things that happened in the 20th century was the firm reaffirmation, after the war was over, that Nazi lives do have value.

The allies would have been within every reasonable right to just string up the Nazi leadership like Mussolini, make a new treaty of Versailles, and mime tiny violins any time one of the citizens of Germany raised the alarm that their kids were starving. And, a lot of the people on the ground basically did exactly that. But the word from the top is: They are humans. They have rights.

The ones we think are guilty get lawyers and trials, no matter what we’re pretty sure they did. That’s what humans have to do for each other, in a just world. It doesn’t mean you don’t set things right, but you still give them human value and rights, even the worst, before you put them to death if that’s justice.

The whole roots of the war lay in misery and hate. What are we going to be reaping in 20 years if we just replant it all because it’s “what they deserve?” Let’s put an end to it.

It doesn’t mean we didn’t do terrible things in the war, or kill in self defense. Even kill whole cities in an instant, if you need to. But the killing isn’t the point. It’s just a protection, and it needs to end as soon as you can see a way to end it.

And then, back to human life and value. That is, in fact, what separates us from the Nazis, is that we’re not looking to throw it away.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (8 children)

The whole roots of the war lay in misery and hate. What are we going to be reaping in 20 years if we just replant it all because it’s “what they deserve?” Let’s put an end to it.

I really wanted you to be wrong, but you're not, and that quote is the crux of the matter. I would just add we need to get really aggressive with re-education. I know you mentioned it elsewhere, but we need to be like dogs with t-bones, with it.

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[–] ZombiFrancis 4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The Nuremburg Trials still falls within the determination that Nazi lives did not matter. The executions were definitely the point.

The key example for this was Julius Streicher. He didn't plan the Holocaust, implement it, or get involved in any military action of World War 2. He just spread antisemitic and genocidial vitriol through the press.

Nazis and the ideologies they spread are a Crime against Humanity for Incitement of Genocide.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (11 children)

The Nuremburg Trials still falls within the determination that Nazi lives did not matter. The executions were definitely the point.

Maybe it’s just a question of semantics. But to get at the point I was trying to make, you can try a thought experiment:

Imagine someone brings in a big leaking bag of garbage off the street. They haul it into the courtroom, get a lawyer for it, spend months making sure it’s resupplied with water when it stops leaking and gets good housing, repeatedly had experts come in and examine it and look up the records of what type of garbage it had inside it. And then, everything having been satisfied to everyone’s satisfaction, they take it out and toss it in the dump.

Or, someone puts leaking garbage on a truck, drives it to a place where it’s stored until they can get themselves organized to get rid of it, and then they burn it. It’s given an asset tag, but mostly just so they can make use of a system to count the garbage and make sure there’s nothing of value in any of the bags.

You get my point, I think. My point is not that you need to be tolerant or soft about people who are going to try to kill you. My point is that they are (depressingly enough) very much human beings, the whole time they’re doing that, and the allies did good by vigorously rejecting the “anyone who wrongs me stops being a person” model.

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[–] southsamurai 12 points 1 week ago

Being real, it looks like your entire point in posting was to have an excuse to continue talking about the subject. Which isn't against the rules of the C/, but I seems kinda weird. There's plenty of places where you can talk about hating nazis and what you wish you could do to them.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Realized I should probably add the post as context In Munich, Vance accuses European politicians of censoring free speech

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

And this context is FRICKING important.

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