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Since Xorg is getting old, looking at trying Wayland WMs (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 day ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 minutes ago

If dmenu was made by a nazi I wouldn't give a shit because its just dmenu but hyprland is so clearly made by a pack of /g/ zoomers who want their desktops to look like 1337 haXors without any access to the low level systems. Its all discord script kiddie hype-beasts.

Its a tiling window manager made by people who never used a tiling window manager on X11. I know I'm sounding like an elitist boomer but this shit really violates some core Unix principals of making small composable utilities that empower the user. RiverWM or Sway keep to this philosophy.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

too bad the guy behind hyprland is a shitty little nazi twerp

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

It's open source right? Can't a new maintainer just fork it and tell the Nazi to punch himself?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

Hyprland is transphobic

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

issue is, so many things have been called transphobic, from mere personal opinions to accidents to actual transphobia, i just can't trust a blanket "foo is transphobic" comment.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

Hyprland's community has a history of toxicity: https://drewdevault.com/2023/09/17/Hyprland-toxicity.html

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 minutes ago

Who is joining communities for window managers?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 30 minutes ago

Seems fine

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 hours ago

Whoa that GH issue is pretty bad. What a bunch of babies.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

What? How is software transphobic

[–] [email protected] 2 points 37 minutes ago* (last edited 36 minutes ago) (1 children)

Because people are still Reddit-brained, have no capacity for nuance and thrive on outrage like an addict.

For the addicts with their finger smashing the downvote button:

Elon Musk is an idiot. But that doesn't mean that a Tesla Model S is an idiot.

A Hyprland developer could be transphobic, members who comment in the community could be transphobic but that doesn't make the software transphobic.

Software doesn't have political opinions.

If you want to not be hypocritical and examine all products with the same ridiculous level of scrutiny then you're probably using electronic components in your house, car, smartphone and PC that were sourced using slave labor, child labor or built by countries that engage in human rights abuse.

The electricity used to allow you to uncritically attack people online was generated by means which contribute to climate change which will kill or displace hundreds of millions of people.

The language you're using is primarily used by cultures who have historically engaged in colonialism, piracy, slavery, religious oppression, ethnic cleansing and wars of aggression.

So, unless you're willing to sit in a forest and never communicate with another person, you're going to be using technology which, if you pedantically dig deep enough, you can find some "problematic" behaviors associated with.

Or, you could not act ignorant in online spaces. That's also an option.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 minutes ago

Elon Musk is an idiot. But that doesn’t mean that a Tesla Model S is an idiot.

While I agree with the point you're trying to make, Teslas are hot garbage with shit quality control that has led to quite a few deaths. I wouldn't ride in one, let alone buy one. If cars could be idiots, Teslas would be.

A better example would have been SpaceX.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 hours ago

It's software with no opinion.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

How is a tiling wm transphobic? Seriously get a life.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Obviously they meant the community.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Meh. Does it do anything KDE can't?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 minutes ago

Well, yes, but that's besides the point since they're totally different types of software. KDE can also do a shit ton of things that Hyprland can't, and isn't expected to ever try doing.

[–] BigDanishGuy 10 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Old ≠ bad

Personally I don't need fancy. I need stability. If it ain't broken, don't fix it, and I haven't experienced issues with Xorg... But then again, I ditched Ubuntu in 2012 because they switched to that awful search bar launcher doohickey, so I might be a dinosaur in this regard.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 hours ago

If it ain’t broken

But it is...

I still have (or rather had) some screen-tearing somewhere. I very much have annihilated that issue with settings in X11 (though some application somewhere still has issues, be it the video player). And it just feels clunky non the less.

Although I'm currently not using Hyprland, it really feels nice to use, really flowy. I'm currently testing COSMIC (which is reasonably still in alpha, as I got issues with *** nvidia, like suspend sometimes hangs the computer).

That said, I think it's still ok to wait until the whole ecosystem is well supported in wayland, and *** nvidia finally got their wayland shit together.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Tried using Wayland recently, but alas, my Nvidia GPU holds me back once again.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I've been on bazzite for awhile with a 3090 and it runs pretty great.

Maybe give that a shot if possible

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Problems arise with old NVIDIA cards (up to Kepler)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

Yeah, definitely not perfect... I hope nvk fixes some of this eventually

Nvk will work on the older cards right?

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