this post was submitted on 07 Feb 2025
169 points (78.1% liked)

Unpopular Opinion

6574 readers
650 users here now

Welcome to the Unpopular Opinion community!


How voting works:

Vote the opposite of the norm.


If you agree that the opinion is unpopular give it an arrow up. If it's something that's widely accepted, give it an arrow down.



Guidelines:

Tag your post, if possible (not required)


  • If your post is a "General" unpopular opinion, start the subject with [GENERAL].
  • If it is a Lemmy-specific unpopular opinion, start it with [LEMMY].


Rules:

1. NO POLITICS


Politics is everywhere. Let's make this about [general] and [lemmy] - specific topics, and keep politics out of it.


2. Be civil.


Disagreements happen, but that doesn’t provide the right to personally attack others. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Please also refrain from gatekeeping others' opinions.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Shitposts and memes are allowed but...


Only until they prove to be a problem. They can and will be removed at moderator discretion.


5. No trolling.


This shouldn't need an explanation. If your post or comment is made just to get a rise with no real value, it will be removed. You do this too often, you will get a vacation to touch grass, away from this community for 1 or more days. Repeat offenses will result in a perma-ban.



Instance-wide rules always apply. https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

I hate people who treat them like some toys and fantasize about them. That makes me think they are in some sort of death cult. That they found socially acceptable way to love violence.

I would still get one for safety but it is a tool made for specifically one thing. To pierce the skin and rip through the inner organs of a person.

They can serve a good purpose but they are fundamentally grim tools of pain and suffering. They shouldn’t be celebrated and glorified in their own right, that is sick. They can be used to preserve something precious but at a price to pay.

(page 3) 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 5 points 20 hours ago (6 children)

I was with you up until the "I would still get one for safely" part. We must clearly live in different kinds of areas, I've never felt the need to own one for any reason.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

OP is right though, there are parts of the world where self defense is not as clear cut. The question you need to follow up with is "is this self defense against nature or people?".

For example, there are places in the far north where polar bears are a problem, I doubt anyone other than Greenpeace would not have a problem with you shooting an animal attacking you. Its tragic, but by that point its not really avoidable.

The issue most of us have is the "defense against people" where lines get drawn, the problem is how inconsistent that line is. Im in the camp where survival is fine, and sport is conditionally ok, but outside that there are no ethical reasons to persue gun ownership, but others will say collections, historic preservation, or self defense are valid reasons. Culture has a lot to do with it, some places handle it well, like Switzerland, but the elephant in the room is America and their, I would argue very unhealthy, relationship with guns.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] earphone843 1 points 18 hours ago

Then you're privileged.

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

I've played shooter games since a kid and I've never wanted to own a gun. it's 100% a special kind of brainrot/power trip to want to hold and own deadly weapons and you won't convince me otherwise

yes hunting is a thing, I promise you the vast majority of American gun owners are not hunters.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago

Thank you! You have a way with words.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 19 hours ago

i own a gun whose sole purpose of being manufactured was to kill himans - it is a war rifle.

i have killed as many things with it as i want to: zero.

i am not a gun nut, but i do enjoy the history of it. i learned a lot about yugoslavia just because i was curious about the time period it came from.

i agree that some guns are created with the sole purpose of killing people... i just dont feel like killing people with it. never have, never will (its not for protection, etc.. its for history)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 18 hours ago

They're tools designed specifically for killing, not just for killing humans.

The people who take umbrage at that distinction are an actual problem.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

It's sad to see this is an unpopular opinion (context from the community rules: if you agree that the opinion is unpopular give it an arrow up. If it's something that's widely accepted, give it an arrow down.)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago

Have I disturbed the peace of this community

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago

I agree, but I doubt the majority ever will.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

They are helpful as someone who sometimes needs to cull animals,

Apart from that I see them more as a symbol of power. I would never go to a protest with a loaded gun, but carrying a gun while protesting facism shows we are serious, we have power.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I agree it's about power, and people get hopped up on feeling that power.

However, please stay the fuck away from any protests. You're likely to get other people killed brandishing guns whether they are loaded or not.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago

It’s more about a tit for tat, in my area we have right wingers open carrying around leftist protests. So our anarchist groups open carry (unloaded) guns as a sort of “you’re not going to intimidate us” response.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago

i prefer to call them what they are 'human killing devices'.

for example; its ludicrous that american police are armed unnecessarily with human killing devices their entire shifts. it just demonstrates their cowardice and incompetence with regards to policing.

[–] DannyBoy 2 points 18 hours ago (12 children)

I had a rabid raccoon on my farm a little while ago. What do you suggest is the best way to handle that situation?

load more comments (12 replies)
[–] [email protected] -1 points 12 hours ago

You are exactly the person that shouldn't get a gun.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago

Many are actually engineered to take the lives of animals, when you factor in the design of a hunting rifle and its hunting ammo. Those designs allow for the hunter to fill their freezer with high quality meat for far less cost than it could be purchased.

Pistols are generally designed for killing people though. Pistols are used more often in any kinds of homicide than any other type of firearm, yet strangely enough most modern gun control legislation tends to be focused on rifles.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago

I had to go look up if this was a tongue-in-cheek obscure reference to Frank Miller. It's not, apparently.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Gun fanatics always talk about stopping an evil government but we clearly see they have no intention of doing that, instead I just see them used to slaughter innocent people on a regular basis.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments
view more: ‹ prev next ›