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[–] [email protected] 149 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Imagine having worked there for years. You follow all those opsec and cybersecurity rules painstakingly because it's all so important and everything. And then some student waltzes in and just does whatever.

[–] [email protected] 77 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

A student who may very well be a malignant narcissist, who doesn't understand how anything works outside of their highly niche studies.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

All that.. annual training.

[–] [email protected] 76 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is the guy writting back door access into computer systems in the government? This can only end badly. One day when America's enemy get aggressive enough they will exploit this weakness in our system he put in. It be 100% this guy's fault when that happens.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You tell me a 23 years old can be compromised ! Who would have thought !

Heavy threats or promised large sum of money won't be used against such a strong willfull man right ?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (8 children)

Ageism right here. There is nothing preventing a 23 year old from holding a security clearance and being as trustworthy as a 50 year old.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That 23 year old can easily be compromised. I know this because he was, by musk.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

My grandma could snap that mfer in half and she's been dead for years.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So criticise him for being a boot licking clown employed by the Swasticar king.

Age is not a valid criticism here.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Every person is different. But on average, younger people are easier to trick. As are the elderly. The former lacks experience. The latter loses faculties.

It's ageist to pre judge a ~person~ based on age. It's not ageist to understand the progression of the human mind.

You wouldn't say it's ageist that babies are easy to trick, would you?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There it is again, infantilizing an adult.

There's no evidence this guy has been tricked. There's a lot of evidence he's a piece of shit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Maybe. See, you assume this person has a full comprehension of what's he's doing, why he's doing it, and the historical context around what musk is doing. You assume he's all-in on being a fascist.

You're assuming this guy is a genius who spent his time learning programming and history and politics. And from there he decided that he'll help overthrow a government.

I remember being that age, and apparently I wasn't as smart because I just learned programming by then. It took will into my 30s to start to understand social issues and into my 40s to start to get politics. I worked for a very evil corporation because the money was good, and never gave it a second thought.

If we knew the guy's name we could look him up online and see if his posts are more "well researched Nazi" or "easily fooled lonely edgelord". But if I had to put money on it, I'm betting it's the latter.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

His age or individual knowledge of topics outside of his work are non-issues.

He has chosen to take marching orders from Nazi President Musk, is installing back doors into sensitive systems, and has a highly suspect history that implicates him in cyber crime activities which would likely prevent him from obtaining a security clearance.

As I have stated numerous times, there is plenty of info available to criticise this man and his age is irrelevant.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

His age is only relevant if you care about the how or the why. You seem to care only about the what.

Which is fine. But the how and why matter if we want to prevent more of this. For example, to me this shows we need to teach history and politics better in technical colleges.

[–] Spookyghost 8 points 2 months ago

Brain development.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

So you dont mind a inexperienced 23 years old running the energy dept. You know the one whom handles fissile materials etc...

And don't forget he has no security clearance, was not vetted.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

His age and his lack of clearance are entirely separate matters, one is worthy of criticism and the other isn't.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (3 children)

What about experience? Can a 23 year old have the experience to understand the gravity of what he is dealing with?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You're the only one that brought up clearance.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

You tell me a 23 years old can be compromised

It's almost like there's context here. https://lemmy.world/comment/14942989

If only there were a vetting process to allow Government to check if someone is or is likely to be compromised!

Maybe once the person has been cleared through that process we could give them something that can be recognised between agencies? Some sort of clearance?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

It's not just about (and has little to do with) security clearance. A 23 year old is very unlikely to have enough experience in literally fucking anything to be wielding the authority and property of the American people like these children are.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"ageism"

What are you, 14?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm almost old enough to be his father, and also old enough to recognise that you're a fucking muppet

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago

Oh god! Not the Muppet!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If you think any 23 year old should be allowed to create backdoors into the systems that control nukes then you are probably too young to properly judge this situation.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Criticising the installation of back doors is valid, trying to paint me as not old enough is hilarious and more ageism.

Not only am I old enough, I happen to be a cyber security expert, capable of understanding that a Government department has more than one system, and backdoors to one system does not magically grant access to nukes.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

It's just funny you crying agism and defending this guy for literally any reason

We both know why you're here

I just don't defend fascists because I know it leads to nothing good

[–] Predalien 3 points 2 months ago (3 children)

He's not defending anyone though, as I understand it he's just saying that there are valid reasons for criticising this, but age isn't among them

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

We both know why you’re here

Because I'm pointing out how idiotic it is to criticise someone based on their age when there is an absolute truckload of valid reasons to criticise them?

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 2 months ago (1 children)

US Department of Energy is responsible for the transportation of all assembled nuclear weapons

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

While the department’s chief information office does not control IT systems for nuclear weapons labs, it does provide connectivity and internet services for the National Nuclear Security Administration (NNSA) headquarters.

Even worse.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is every hackers wet dream. Access to government systems they should not have any right to access. Our enemies couldn’t dream of a better scenario. A few young stupid and inexperienced developers writing backdoors to previously secure systems for some rich dumb oligarch to exploit and leaving national security completely exposed.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Our enemies did dream it. They also planned it and executed it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

Wrote up a summary months ago (with reputable sources!) and warned about Nazis too and was permabanned from Lemmy news and politics for it.

Idk man, you can tell people stuff, but it’s so hard for them to access what’s real right now. There’s a concerted online effort to suppress factual info.

https://lemmy.world/comment/13431373

[–] jjagaimo 40 points 2 months ago (3 children)

How long before security in one of these departments physically stops these guys from waltzing in

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I wouldn’t hold my breath. In the end, these are people trying to feed their families, which is going to be impossible if they are resisting this too hard. The attack by the magats is unprecedented in this respect.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's sad. This is how we get to "just following orders", and I can't say I blame them for not stopping them. Even if they wanted to, they'd just be replaced by someone who wouldn't.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

The key problem is that they started by getting rid of all the people who's job it is to enforce the laws that are being broken.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

When someone without a family that can be disappeared when the orange turd has a hissyfit is in the way?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's win/win... He'll be the perfect scapegoat when this move inevitably ends up killing Americans.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

No security clearance? Trying to access sensitive national security government systems?

That sounds like something that falls into the all enemies, foreign and domestic category.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 months ago

What's awesome is that this kind of thing is objectively bad.

But 50% will defend it, not because they think it's right necessarily, but because their guy is the one in charge and 99% of US voters form their opinions solely on the basis of convenience.

[–] meowmeowbeanz 22 points 2 months ago

Oh, fantastic, another nepo-baby speedrun through national security. Why bother with clearances when your last name is Musk? 23 years old and already bypassing protocols like it’s a Tesla recall.

The Energy Department’s IT systems? Not exactly TikTok servers, but sure, let’s hand over the keys to someone whose resume reads like “intern at dad’s company.”

At this point, the clearance process is just vibes. Good luck, grid.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago

"Adding to the controversy, sources revealed that there are plans to install a SpaceX network security engineer as the Energy Department’s new chief information officer. This move, if confirmed, would further solidify Musk’s influence in key government sectors, particularly in cybersecurity " Whats it going to take for us to take this shit back? This is straight up a security threat and anyone else who had taken over this" email and Microsoft 365" information would have been hounded by the FBI, the CIA all the alphabet teams. WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON?!!!!

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