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[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (7 children)

Ageism right here. There is nothing preventing a 23 year old from holding a security clearance and being as trustworthy as a 50 year old.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 days ago (2 children)

That 23 year old can easily be compromised. I know this because he was, by musk.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

My grandma could snap that mfer in half and she's been dead for years.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

So criticise him for being a boot licking clown employed by the Swasticar king.

Age is not a valid criticism here.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Every person is different. But on average, younger people are easier to trick. As are the elderly. The former lacks experience. The latter loses faculties.

It's ageist to pre judge a ~person~ based on age. It's not ageist to understand the progression of the human mind.

You wouldn't say it's ageist that babies are easy to trick, would you?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

There it is again, infantilizing an adult.

There's no evidence this guy has been tricked. There's a lot of evidence he's a piece of shit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Maybe. See, you assume this person has a full comprehension of what's he's doing, why he's doing it, and the historical context around what musk is doing. You assume he's all-in on being a fascist.

You're assuming this guy is a genius who spent his time learning programming and history and politics. And from there he decided that he'll help overthrow a government.

I remember being that age, and apparently I wasn't as smart because I just learned programming by then. It took will into my 30s to start to understand social issues and into my 40s to start to get politics. I worked for a very evil corporation because the money was good, and never gave it a second thought.

If we knew the guy's name we could look him up online and see if his posts are more "well researched Nazi" or "easily fooled lonely edgelord". But if I had to put money on it, I'm betting it's the latter.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

His age or individual knowledge of topics outside of his work are non-issues.

He has chosen to take marching orders from Nazi President Musk, is installing back doors into sensitive systems, and has a highly suspect history that implicates him in cyber crime activities which would likely prevent him from obtaining a security clearance.

As I have stated numerous times, there is plenty of info available to criticise this man and his age is irrelevant.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

His age is only relevant if you care about the how or the why. You seem to care only about the what.

Which is fine. But the how and why matter if we want to prevent more of this. For example, to me this shows we need to teach history and politics better in technical colleges.

[–] Spookyghost 8 points 5 days ago

Brain development.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

It's not just about (and has little to do with) security clearance. A 23 year old is very unlikely to have enough experience in literally fucking anything to be wielding the authority and property of the American people like these children are.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

So you dont mind a inexperienced 23 years old running the energy dept. You know the one whom handles fissile materials etc...

And don't forget he has no security clearance, was not vetted.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago (2 children)

His age and his lack of clearance are entirely separate matters, one is worthy of criticism and the other isn't.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

What about experience? Can a 23 year old have the experience to understand the gravity of what he is dealing with?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

A 23 year old is an adult, can drive, have children and kill people in war.

Stop infantilising the person. You should criticise them based on their actual actions.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

"Although the brain stops growing in size by early adolescence, the teen years are all about fine-tuning how the brain works. The brain finishes developing and maturing in the mid-to-late 20s. The part of the brain behind the forehead, called the prefrontal cortex, is one of the last parts to mature. "

https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/publications/the-teen-brain-7-things-to-know#:~:text=Although%20the%20brain%20stops%20growing,the%20last%20parts%20to%20mature.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

That doesn’t answer my question.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You're the only one that brought up clearance.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

You tell me a 23 years old can be compromised

It's almost like there's context here. https://lemmy.world/comment/14942989

If only there were a vetting process to allow Government to check if someone is or is likely to be compromised!

Maybe once the person has been cleared through that process we could give them something that can be recognised between agencies? Some sort of clearance?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'm almost old enough to be his father, and also old enough to recognise that you're a fucking muppet

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 days ago

Oh god! Not the Muppet!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If you think any 23 year old should be allowed to create backdoors into the systems that control nukes then you are probably too young to properly judge this situation.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Criticising the installation of back doors is valid, trying to paint me as not old enough is hilarious and more ageism.

Not only am I old enough, I happen to be a cyber security expert, capable of understanding that a Government department has more than one system, and backdoors to one system does not magically grant access to nukes.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

It's just funny you crying agism and defending this guy for literally any reason

We both know why you're here

I just don't defend fascists because I know it leads to nothing good

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

We both know why you’re here

Because I'm pointing out how idiotic it is to criticise someone based on their age when there is an absolute truckload of valid reasons to criticise them?

[–] Predalien 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

He's not defending anyone though, as I understand it he's just saying that there are valid reasons for criticising this, but age isn't among them

[–] [email protected] -4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That's how people defend shitty people they agree with but are too embarrassed to agree with publicly.

The term is sympathizer.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Sympathise deez nuts you moron

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 days ago

Keep defending nazis moron

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

At 23, men's frontal lobes aren't even fully developed. You're substantially wrong.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

At 23 you can hold a security clearance. Being 23 does not make you a liar, security risk or inherently untrustworthy.

At 50 you can be a lying stealing murdering meth addict.

His age is not the problem here.

You are demonstrably wrong. Perhaps there is an issue with your frontal lobes if you cannot comprehend this simple concept.