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Context: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/37167077

I'm sure we've all seen db0's post on fediverse about the success of linking c/piracy to r/piracy; and due to the ongoing reddit exodus, there is an opportunity:

What if we talk to the reddit mods of equivalent communities, and ask them to link to the lemmy version? It seems it could be a great success. I've even made a post for these new users: https://lemm.ee/post/54814946 and the mods, to explain in as short time as i can how to get completely set for the threadiverse.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I've been thinking of contacting the: r/privacy, r/latin, r/tankiejerk, r/fallout mods since that is what i mod. However we will see how they reply.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I can't cold call even online. I salute your boldness o7

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, i'll either be told to piss off, "what is a lemmy?" or be ignored. They're redditors so pray for me o7

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (4 children)

For me, it's not even the possibility of negative responses. I could be 100% guaranteed to get a positive response, and I'd still hesitate to reach out.

Once people step into the topic, I'm bold as can be, but God, something deep and anxious in me regards bringing subjects up as an unforgivable interruption of someone else's life.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

You know what broke me of all phone anxiety? I spent the last eight years at a job where I frequently have to call hospital billing departments, and for eight years they have consistently been inventing new ways to disappoint me.

So now I have the ability to not only sound quite confident speaking with strangers on the phone, I can also handle flat rejection and the most weaponized stupidity ever recorded for quality assurance.

I'm a broken, once-proud introvert who never wanted to leave calm, concise voice mails or get back to people.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's the most striking thing. When you speak with a hospital billing representative who is constantly being recorded, timed, and censored - not to mention mistreated by the most disturbing examples of god's handiwork on a daily basis, it is like communion with a ghost, a crossing of the veil with a shade rendered insensate by the shackles of infinity. Stripped of all memory, feeling, and mentation, they routinely repeat themselves and forget nearly everything you tell them.

They will terrorise you with outdated information, demand months or longer to respond to any request, transfer you to someone even more psychically hollow, and fail entirely to read or write any notes from your previous calls from the last six weeks.

I wish that instead of a VOIP client, my phone was designed by Egon Spengler to entrap such nightmares. They would be better looked after in an ecto-containment unit by my desk, I think.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I do complain magnificently at times, but I've never managed to make it my job. If I did, I'd run out of relatable material too quickly.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

It's okay to complain as a hobby. We're allowed to be good at things without monetizing them. For now, anyway.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ditto. I thought about contacting r/linguistics and r/asklinguistics mods; if they showed desire to migrate their subreddits to Lemmy, I'd gladly help them out. But there are a thousand ways that this could be interpreted wrong, and I get really anxious thinking on them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why do you get anxious? That the mods will think that you are being pushy, or that the community is like toxic or something? The former can be dealt with, while the latter might be best to leave well enough alone:-).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Let's see:

  • "You're being pushy" is one of them indeed. I might not be the first one contacting them to talk about this.
  • Assuming that I want to merge [email protected] with their community. I definitively don't, but the expectation itself could create unnecessary conflict.
  • Assuming that I'm only shilling the Fediverse, with no regards to the well-being of their communities, when it's both.
  • Assuming that I have further, hidden motivations.

...and so goes on. Plus much like PugJesus I get anxious thinking "this is an unforgivable interruption of someone else's life",.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes the former is not so bad but the rest makes it more complicated - they might be power mad dictators, or they could be wondering if you were. Perhaps if they make a post on the topic you could speak up then, with them having made the first move.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yup. I don't even mind creating an account there, if they mention the topic officially, to talk with them about this stuff. But going out of my way to tell them "pls join Lemmy"? I'd rather not!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You might create it now. New accounts can be shadow-banned at first, it's better if the account is a few days/weeks old before using links in comments

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

New accounts can be shadow-banned at first, it’s better if the account is a few days/weeks old before using links in comments

Urgh... and here I go, farming 1k karma in r/AskReddit. (I'll simply ask a chatbot to give me "one line witty and funny replies to [post title].)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How you will feel afterwards:

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nah :P I used this "one line witty and funny replies in r/AskLebbit" approach all the time, when I created troll accounts. All the change is just automatising the process of getting a few ideas.

Plus... honestly? If Reddit gets filled with bot-generated replies, that's good.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"if"

...

"IF"!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

...fine, fine! If the bot problem in Reddit becomes even worse than it already is! :D

I know, I know. The place is already a botfest. I'm pissing in an ocean of piss.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 23 hours ago

Our new overlords don't seem to mind - it's only us pesky humans that bother with such things!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

I've sent them all, wish me luck 🤞

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah same, but i focus on more of the negative aspect. Though it's comforting knowing there are people behind me so it's not me cold calling alone lmao

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's a valuable contribution to the community. One to one connections are the backbone of any larger social fabric.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Ive beent trying to keep my type of interests on fedi alive,from languages to video games this'll help me a great deal if ithey accept

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

@[email protected] was banned from r/france for "advertising" Lemmy as a reddit alternative, despite offering their mods to keep their position should they join

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

lmao

I've been martyred, all my updoots 😭

[–] threelonmusketeers 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Sitewide? That seems harsh. Did you manage to piss off an admin or something?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

tbf i sent like 4 very similar messages to modmail at close times, so it could have been flagged as spam.

[–] threelonmusketeers 2 points 2 days ago

Ooh yeah, I can see how that might have triggered some sort of automated spam detection filter.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Kind of a badge of honour, at this point. Details on [email protected] for people interested.

Also, it's only a 7 days ban, so I'll probably be back next week

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Definitely worth a shot, I’d be curious to hear how the convos go

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Probably worth linking 50501. If they ever actually do anything that threatens to change things that sub will get nuked, so they'd probably want an escape plan.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I wouldn't mind shooting the mods a message for you. What is the Lemmy equivalent?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Sorry to be a pessimist but this was the strategy during one of the bigger Reddit exoduses over a year ago. It didn’t seem super effective and I doubt it would be better now since Reddit removed a bunch of rebellious mods

[–] threelonmusketeers 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It didn’t seem super effective

Hey, it's why I'm here :)

Probably other people too.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No problem :)

It seems for dbzer0 its been very, very successful. And it did have an effect last time, even if it is small.

I think we shouldn't waste such a good opportunity, even if we only get a handful of users

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Don't ask, don't get. A small success is still a success.

Just getting fed as a concept into people's heads is a win, and every user turned is a victory.

I think there will be a critical point in the future that pushes the majority of users from Reddit, much like how Digg went down back in the day.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Like a lot of of things, it's not really important to get everyone to switch immediately but to keep lemmy being mentioned. Humans are weird animals and this sort of advertising requires repetition. Just having lemmy appearing regularly in redditor feeds is always good to get people switching

[–] threelonmusketeers 1 points 2 days ago

Excellent points.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yep, a win is still a win. And who knows? we might get a couple of valuable users from it.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's an important thing to point out: Simply having many users isn't bad, of course, but for small communities to grow, you mostly need a few power users to push open the doors and lay the groundwork for more passive users to follow.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1%25_rule

Yep, no matter how many commenters, subscribers, upvoters you have you will ultimately be the only one posting for a long time, to keep the community alive (till it manages to sustain itself)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

..and for some subs, the mods just outright banned posts, comments or the users posting, for even mentioning the words 'lemmy', 'fediverse', and so on. (happened to me)

I'd suggest DMing users on reddit individually whenever you see someone asking about options for other communities and social media, directing them to lemmy, but that'll take a lot more effort. AFAIK reddit isn't (yet) going so far as to monitor direct messages between users to censor mention of the fediverse.