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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I downloaded it yesterday to test, and my wife was immediately was like ask about it. I had to comply, it said I can't talk about sensitive topic, but in the think it talked a bit.

Anyway, I tested simple sum, good job. I tested an integration that doesn't have closed form solution poor thing was thinking a lot, everytime it goes "this happened which makes the integral impossible" then it goes "maybe another approach" and tries again. Had to ctrl+C, but I'm at least impressed with trying to find solution without giving up, very asian.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What was the integral and what form does a solution take when there's no closed form?

I'm curious because I used to know but forgot most of calculus at this point.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Integration was this (idk if lemmy renders latex):

int_0^1{x^{-1} (1-x)^{n-1}} dx

[ \int_0^1 {x^{-1} (1-x)^{n-1}}dx ]

Text: finite integration from 0 to 1 of function x to power negative one, (1-x) to the power (n-1).

The limit at 0 goes to infinity that's why there is no solution. But deepseek kept trying different method reaching a conclusion that it can't be solved then then trying different approach.

About the closed form, the function without closed form was that function multiplied by x^y (1-x)^y .

int_0^1{x^{y-1} (1-x)^{n-y-1}} dx

The first one is a case where y=0. Unless y=0 or n, you have integration, just not a closed form. You can plot the function to see it as well. You'd have to try different values of y and n for it to actually plot something though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago

Ah I see thank you

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (11 children)

People can't even think of any other propaganda besides Tianamin Square lol

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My conspiracy theory is that China does not care about Tianamin Square at all, because its just a focal point distraction from the real shit they bury.

Its basically a propaganda honeypot.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

its just a focal point distraction from the real shit they bury

Is there anything more American than taking a moment to think and realizing, "Damn, fixation on Tienanmen Square seems like its designed to derail any kind of serious conversation about our respective countries" and then falling directly into the "Because the nefarious Chinese have tricked us!" mental trap.

“During the cold war, the anticommunist ideological framework could transform any data about existing communist societies into hostile evidence. If the Soviets refused to negotiate a point, they were intransigent and belligerent; if they appeared willing to make concessions, this was but a skillful ploy to put us off our guard. By opposing arms limitations, they would have demonstrated their aggressive intent; but when in fact they supported most armament treaties, it was because they were mendacious and manipulative. If the churches in the USSR were empty, this demonstrated that religion was suppressed; but if the churches were full, this meant the people were rejecting the regime's atheistic ideology. If the workers went on strike (as happened on infrequent occasions), this was evidence of their alienation from the collectivist system; if they didn't go on strike, this was because they were intimidated and lacked freedom. A scarcity of consumer goods demonstrated the failure of the economic system; an improvement in consumer supplies meant only that the leaders were attempting to placate a restive population and so maintain a firmer hold over them. If communists in the United States played an important role struggling for the rights of workers, the poor, African-Americans, women, and others, this was only their guileful way of gathering support among disfranchised groups and gaining power for themselves. How one gained power by fighting for the rights of powerless groups was never explained. What we are dealing with is a nonfalsifiable orthodoxy, so assiduously marketed by the ruling interests that it affected people across the entire political spectrum.”

-Michael Parenti Blackshirts and the reds

Meanwhile...

Every time China visits we get a hospital, every time Britain visits we get a lecture.

~ Dr Lubinda Haabazoka, Director of the University of Zambia Graduate School of Business and former President of the Economics Association of Zambia

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

It's like that "Conservatives have One Joke" meme.

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[–] ZombiFrancis 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'd be curious how the model relates other controversial periods of history. Like how does it respond to questions about the Civil War, Imperial Japan, the Warlord period or the Korean War? How does it portray the proxy wars in Vietnam and Cambodia?

Or is it just the typical hot button topics that are the go-to for testing?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Like how does it respond to questions about the Civil War, Imperial Japan, the Warlord period or the Korean War? How does it portray the proxy wars in Vietnam and Cambodia?

I would ask except it appears my local network is now blocking access to DeepSeek.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (8 children)

It is largely trained on online articles, which does have inherently a western media bias in the first place. Any censorship/filtering are done after the fact as part of the hosted service.

Reminder the models do not form their own opinion, they only calculated the most likely response after a question.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Can't believe this .ml garbage is being upvoted.

Models are absolutely aligned, there's an entire thing called alignment! People even have jobs that they do every day keeping the models aligned and clearly Chinese government is aligning Deepseek because you can simply test it.

It's such an idiotic claim as even if there was no alginment going on what stopping from taking out material from the training set? You somehow imply that smartest people on earth can't remove some wikipedia articles from the training data?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

If they actually already have the alignment, then it wouldn't have needed an additional filter on their cloud based service that censors results that causes the discrepancy between the model you can download and their cloud service.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago

Isn't that just one more way to align?

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

well at least they seem to have found the way to make LLMs behave completely within some rule boundaries. could be useful for using LLMs in games...

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ah, Deepseek!

It actually typed out the responses before deleting it and replacing it with "Sorry, that's beyond my current scope. Let's talk about something else"

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