Musk spoke live via video link
For those wondering.
I guess he is afraid to get arrested in Germany given his apparent lack of self-control Heil Hitlering crowds in person. /s
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Heil Hitlering
In Germany, we call that "abhitlern" (to hitler off).
Death, taxes, German having a word for it, whatever it may be.
I would hope that the anti-Nazi countries would refuse to allow entry. Unless they decide to let him in just so they can arrest him. Hopefully there are still countries that will hold billionaires accountable.
Heil Hitlering
I feel bad for laughing at that.
If you find that funny you just have to watch Jojo rabbit.
It's where this term comes from. Quite funny. Heartbreaking also. Great movie.
If it sounds like nazi, walks like a nazi, and talks like a nazi, it's just Elon Musk, the nazi.
Well, I was downvoted hundreds of times and being told by someone I had the "most moronic opinion" they had ever seen, just because I pointed out there are people in Germany who will celebrate Elon Musk doing the Nazi salute.
Do you believe me now? I am so tired of this shit. Our world is going up in flames and somehow I still need to be ridiculed by someone who I share most of my political beliefs with. Come on, we are on the same side.
And you were downvoted AGAIN.
Listen up people. Elon Musk is a Nazi. This country used to kill Nazis. We cannot accept him in our government. I don't care what personal hangups about this you have for some reason. Vote this shitstain out the next chance you get.
How do we vote someone out that was never voted in?
(this isn't to be contrarian, I agree with everything in your comment)
Tesla has some cult like Followers which are doing Olympic Level Mental Gymnastics.
Just like Church of Apple Members
America* FTFY
of course not all Americans, but maga, all of silicone valley, whoever works for Elon....
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The biggest news / media company in Germany (anf maybe europe?), *Axel Springer, *also invited this nazi and his nazi friends from the AfD to their yearly economic event in Berljn next week: https://www.axelspringer.com/de/ax-press-release/vor-der-bundestagswahl-politiker-und-wirtschafts-lenker-treffen-sich-zum-dialog-beim-16-welt-wirtschaftsgipfel
wouldn't it be amazing when he would be put under arrest once he landed?
He most likely will only join via video call.
Also its very unlikely for him to get arrested in Germany
Musk's words remind me of a prominent German leader who once also sought to keep Germany pure and prevent "the sort of multiculturalism that dilutes everything." I'm having trouble placing the guy's name though...
You're probably thinking of von Hindenburg.
Waaaah? But he was... Wait! I mean because of him... It can't be... It's because of him that... π¦
Oh no.
Nazi shows up at a Nazi event,
If a billionaire meddles with anything related to politics, it's lobbying. And if that lobbying is public, hateful and divides people, you know it's nefarious and should be stopped as soon as possible.
The man has everything he needs. The only thing he doesn't have? Actual power. And he's going for it.
The man has everything he needs. The only thing he doesn't have? Actual power. And he's going for it.<
I get what you're trying to say. But words can change stories, so here is a slightly different take:
He has everything he needs and too much of it . Including power, that's why he gets more and more, and way more than one can ever need in hundreds of generations.
That's also why he can do and say all kinds of shit, and get away with it. And that's the problem. Our world shouldn't facilitate that kind of power and power abuse, without accountability. But it has, and that's why he's a problem.
Yet, he has been crossing some lines. And so, his public support and political clout is slowly diminishing. Seemingly, more financial institutions are starting to lose confidence in him, and dropping supporting him.
Gross. The coward was only willing to βmake an appearanceβ via video.
No need to ruin the entire day with a trip if the right-wing asshats will fawn over you all the same. Ultimately, influencing German politics is only another part-time effort for Elmo. Which can be seen in other ways too, such as mispelling Weidel as "Wiedel" in the announcement of his ralk with her or behaving condescendingly toward her.
"Surprise"
Most ironic thing is that an elite, globalist is an inspiration of anti elite anti globalists.
It's almost like they use elite globalist to mean something that if they said out loud would end up with them in jail for hate speech. /S
In all seriousness, how great of a threat is the AfD within Germany?
Enough of a threat that 200 lawyers recently published an open letter calling for a ban, another 17 constitutional lawyers seeing a strong case for a ban etc.
The last try banning an extremist right wing party (then NPD) failed due to the constitutional court seeing no chance that party could implement their policies. Nobody thinks that would be the case with the AfD.
Also, the candidate for chancellor of the largest party, Friedrich Merz (CDU) just stated they'd work with the AfD on some laws (immigration and refugee issues namely).
Basically, shit's hitting the fan right now.
Also the other right wing populists in the European Parliament kicked them out because the donβt like to be associated with Nazis like the afd. That should tell you everything
Although that might be a move to appear less extremist to their own voters.
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The last try banning an extremist right wing party (then NPD) failed due to the constitutional court seeing no chance that party could implement their policies
Why should this prevent a ban?
Why should this prevent a ban?
It makes no sense at all and this ruling of our supreme court enabled the Nazis to get where they are today.
First they where too small to be banned. Now they are too big to be banned because politicians fear their voters. All the while they get subsidized from our taxes and get ample time on TV and in the press because they are a legal party and they are not banned. It's crazy yet here we are.
The AfD is not too big to be banned, some politicians are just cowards or secretly sympathetic to the AfD.
I'm talking legal requirements for a party ban, not why members of parliament don't want to start the process.
Because itβs not necessary to ban a party that is irrelevant and has no chance to get to any kind of legislative power. The few times the NPD won a seat in a regional parliament, they were ridiculed and no one considered working together with them.
And that's exactly the Problem with the AfD. Other parties, especially the so-called "conservatives" of the CDU, are more than happy to cooperate with the Nazi scum if that gets them what they want.
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Currently it's the biggest threat to our democracy.
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Around 20% of the votes for the general election next month will be cast for the AfD
What would be the impact? In German politics, is that particularly bad?
For one: Them getting more than 20% is scary and shows we have a big problem in our country. Also them being the second-largest party in Germany is insane to me. But by itself that is not enough to get into the government, it still needs some other party to work with them.
Unfortunately the rhetoric of the CDU, which is the "just conservative" party is in my eyes pretty similar to the Afd at the moment and they are currently polling at around 30%. CDU decided on a ban working together with the Afd at all some years ago, but it never seemed more likely they would just drop that and then a potential coalition of CDU + Afd would have around 50% of the vote. Certainly enough to form a government. I'm still somewhat positive they would not actually decide to do that, but you know, by now I also would not be surprised anymoreπ
As a last resort I'm banking on our "supreme court" (Bundesverfassungsgericht ) to strike down the worst things, since it still seems to be intact, unlike in the US. But courts are slow and you can do a lot of damage even with stuff that is not clearly unconstitutional...
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A very big one. They are polling above 20% currently, and instead of countering them, the established parties are trying to fish for votes by copying their talking points. As one AfD politician already publically stated, they don't need to hold any office in order to shape policy.
The "conservative" CDU is already openly considering cooperating with them, after the election, they certainly will enter a coalition with them if that's the path to office.
The whole state of affairs in Germany is horrifyingly reminiscent of the situation in the late stages of the Weimar Republic.
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It got a bit out of hand, because the only ones wanting him there were the Nazis.
What the FUCK
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