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[–] [email protected] 39 points 12 hours ago

Standard traitor shit.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

FTA" "Trump “has proven himself to be the only figure in modern history capable of reversing our nation’s decay and restoring America to greatness, and he must be given the time necessary to accomplish that goal,”" - He hasn't don't anything yet!! How has he 'proven himself'

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[–] [email protected] 173 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

It’s impressive how hard these people lick boots.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

But also how shameless they are, doing it in full public view

[–] DemandtheOxfordComma 24 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 13 hours ago

And the gagging also

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Surely we would all actually show up to try to fight this, right? If it passed.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (3 children)

Absolutely. People talk about another civil war. If you start hear ing about spontaneous violence in the streets, that's when you need to worry. I think if this actually passed, we'd start hearing about stuff like that.

Realistically, Republicans know this has no chance of passing. Frankly, I think this is just mean-spirited trolling--which is a good indicator of the state of our politics. We want to see the other side suffer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

It's the fascist version of all the pie-in-the-sky progressive stuff that gets introduced when they know they can't get the votes. I wish more of them actually gave a shit about the American people as much as optics and pandering so they can keep sucking the megadonor teat.

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[–] [email protected] 111 points 15 hours ago (6 children)

Good fucking luck with that hurdle.

They need a two-thirds vote in both the House of Representatives and the Senate; or a conventio called by Congress at the request of two-thirds of the state legislatures. Then it has to be ratified by the legislatures of three-quarters of the states.

Even if they managed a super majority on both sides of Congress for Trumplefuck, there's no way they're getting 38 States to agree to that.

[–] Kecessa 23 points 12 hours ago

Trump is the candidate during next election

Red States let him be an option even though they shouldn't

He wins enough red States to have a majority

They name him president even though it's against the Constitution

The supreme Court is packed with his picks so they don't do anything about it

Tada! Civil war? Dissolution of the USA? Who knows!?!

[–] [email protected] 59 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

It's sad that you guys still think the rule of the constitution is some massive roadblock that they've somehow missed. They literally made an Executive Order that just says "No" to the very first sentence of the 14th amendment, do you think none of them noticed? They get to have a vote about ludicrous things, and they get to gleefully destroy the lives of any Republican who dares vote against them. Maybe it gets struck down for the time being? Who cares, the courts are packed, they can realistically just start killing people pretty soon and it'll start with the disloyals and the true believers as needed as it always does.

You cannot logical trap nor get off on technicalities fascists. It does not matter to them, they will just do what they want anyways, all that matters is if they can crush anyone who tries to stop them.

They are pushing the boundaries of the conversation and they are testing the waters, and every time they're pushed back on they use the limp push back to consolidate more power because nobody has been willing to actually stop them.

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[–] [email protected] 86 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think the law is a restricting factor for the trump regime.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

That's what the Trump regime wants us to think.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Laws only apply if they are enforced.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 15 hours ago

Which is why I often find myself saying the Trump admin will face one of two types of justice: vigilante or none.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 14 hours ago

The Night of the Long Knives would like to have a word with you

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 13 hours ago

On one hand: called it. On the other: fuck.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 12 hours ago

Well if the heritage Foundation is going to follow the book of revelation, he needs to be there for 7.5 years.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 15 hours ago (8 children)

Imagine the Dems brought Obama back

[–] [email protected] 53 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than three times, nor be elected to any additional term after being elected to two consecutive terms...

Obama served 2 consecutive terms so would be ineligible. They literally wrote this so that only Trump would be eligible.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 14 hours ago

The amount of seething could power the country in perpetuity

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 15 hours ago (6 children)

Do they really expect their orange beanbag leader to still be alive in four years? And if he still is, to still be able to know his own name or speak coherently in public?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago

Even if he survives, he's on the mental decline, so he needs to be replaced with someone.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

He only needs to stagger over the four-year line before dropping dead, and Republicans get to stay in charge for four more years.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

For four more years, so far.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 15 hours ago (8 children)

Actuarial tables for an obese guy of his age reckon 50/50 chance of making it to the end of his term. Of course he has access to better healthcare than most.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

They'll prop his bloated corpse onto a metal pole to put behind glass as they continue to run things while their dear leader 'rests and recuperates.'

[–] [email protected] 8 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Better health care but I gotta imagine day to day odds aren't so hot for a dude who's on a diet of McDonalds and Diet Coke. Kind of surprised he's made it to 78.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (3 children)

That will never happen, legally, anyway.

However

22nd amendment says:

Section 1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. ...

So what they are gonna do is that:

They are gonna argue that presidents are not "elected" but appointed by the Electoral College, therefore the 22nd amendment doesn't apply and hereby null and void.

Or just use elect VP + accension to presidency loophole, and run a dead person as President, then trump as VP, since the placeholder name they put for president isn't alive, VP become president.

Or just cast placeholder names for presidency and VP, and use the Speaker role as acting president.

There are so many loopholes that doesn't require repealing 22nd amendment.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Sorry if I have no faith in the US democracy and law system after a literal felon who staged a coup got re elected, had his bestie pull a bunch of nazi salutes while he was busy pardoning literal violent criminals who did the coup, made everyone a woman AND started a system of snitching on your neighbor to get them removed for noncrimes.

And lets not forget people enforcing the law are now his cronies.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 13 hours ago

I mean, it’s gonna. Every worst case thing is happening all over the place. The constitution is only as good as the people upholding it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

The 1st is a stretch. To goes so far beyond the meaning and precedent that you might as well annul the whole constitution at that point.

The 2nd doesn't work, because you must be eligible for president to run as vice president.

As for the speaker, maybe.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Stop hand wringing in here. It's fucking stupid, and a PR play. You need 38 states for a constitutional amendment, and that isn't happening however you slice it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

We have witnessed, already, the breakdown of democratic society and the rule of law in this country. You need to stop looking at everything through that paradigm because they are just gonna steamroll straight through that shit. They already have.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 13 hours ago

Just shoot however many states are missing govenors in the head, as the SC has ruled the president can order anything illegal. Repeat until passed.

The US has rotten so much on the inside over the past decades, that this decline of the nation is inevitable. Question is only, if people will let the fascists control the decline until the country lies in rubbles, or if people will fight to create a new nation.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 13 hours ago

It wouldn't even get that far. You need either two thirds of both House and Senate or for two thirds of the states to call for a constitutional convention just to propose an amendment.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 15 hours ago

boot-throating cucks

[–] [email protected] 12 points 15 hours ago

But, but, I thought he didn't need this because he has never served two CONSECUTIVE terms! /s

[–] [email protected] 11 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Bold to assume he would even be elected again after 4 years of fucking it up. He wasn’t last time.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago

If not for COVID he probably would have been.

Luckily we've got bird fly waiting in the wings to fuck our shit up once RFKJr decides we should follow the Leslie Knope disaster response plan and start giving the birds CPR.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Bold of you to assume the next elections would be fair.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Bold of you to assume there'd be more elections...

/s

[–] [email protected] 8 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think that's sarcasm, is it? It sounds like a realistic concern, though fraudulent show-elections are more likely at first.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

He will be 82! Have you talked to any 80 year olds recently?

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