I'm starting to think that doing enough Ketamine to take down a racehorse just before giving a speech to the entire world's media, was probably not a good idea...
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Inventing a time machine that lets you go back and kill hitler before he gets in power is a very common power fantasy.
Time travel guy failed by a couple pf centimeters.
It’s not a full on Nazi salute as the words „Heil“, „Heil Hitler“, or „Sieg Heil“ aren’t used. However, it is a full on salute in its tradition. A right wing oligarch holding a victory speech espousing conservative revolution and a glorious future are in the vein of the fascism of old.
Trumpism doesn’t need to even express itself as fully fascist. The popular support, the support of the tycoons of industry, institutional acquiescence, lack of organized resistance, means he doesn’t need to go full authoritarian.
The ideological flexibility of Trumpism is enormous. Allegiance to Trump and MAGA is pretty much it. The rest of the ideology is dynamically formed by sycophants looking for Trump‘s favor. The post ironic attitude means immunity to value based criticism.
Elon Musk is a mix of minister for propaganda and court jester at the same time.
I know I won't change your mind by disagreeing with you regarding the nazi salute. But I want to say that I am very grossed out by all the apologists defending him, even just a little bit.
Just remember the quote, for evil men to succeed, good men just have to do nothing
The fact this is a debatable thing is the shame of humanity.
You know what's even worst? ADL.
Journalists: It appeared to be a South African karate chop of some kind
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It has been maddening how corporate media has been trying to tell us it was anything but a Nazi salute. I'm reminded of the Star Trek episode Chain of Command Part II, "There are four lights!"
Imagine what else they've been lying about.
Lots of sex stuff with kids... some accidental murder and drug binges... the typical conservative stuff they project on others.
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Logical fallacy: Argument from authority.
Look who learned the world fallacy today. Still you're using it wrong
There's a difference between an authority figure and someone with expertise in a subject. This individual isn't using a position of power to supplement his argument, he is just detailing his experience.
People really need to stop treating logical fallacy like they're harry potter spells.
(J) To emphasize the misuse of logical fallacies in recent history.
There’s a difference between an authority figure and someone with expertise in a subject.
By "authority" it means "authority on the subject". A well known and respected physicist would be an authority on the subject or in the field of physics. The issue necessarily isn't the lack of expertise but that the expertise shouldn't be trusted blindly but rather the findings or argument should be verified.
Not that trusting the authorities on the subject is a bad idea especially when you are yourself not an expert. It's more of a thing when trying to study something, figuring out proof of stuff and so on when you need to be aware of the potential issues.
I always thought that it meant: just because someone has authority over one subject, doesn't mean they have it for another. Just because Einstein is good at math and physics doesn't mean his quotes about philosophy and religion hold any authority.
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He claimed it was a "my heart goes out to you" sentiment.
But the "my heart goes out to you" gesture is palm-up...
My heart goes out to you is the fig leaf Elon used for plausible deniability. He probably thinks he was terribly clever. Which, as it turns out, he was. Elon will get away with this and pushed the envelope of what’s possible. Others will imitate him.
This has all the elements for a softer fascist salute, where the words aren’t „Sieg Heil!“ or „Duce!“, but simply „my heart!“. A salute with the hand moving from heart to extension while saying firmly „my heart!“ works well to be visually striking.
But fElon doesn't have a heart
I mean it just doesn't matter what it was "supposed" to be. How many times have we seen things that are sooort of close to the nazi salute so people are like "hey better not do that." And this is stuff that's like basically just anything holding your hand in the air. This was straight up the salute lol I mean there's no two ways about it. The question is what the intention was. And if it wasn't intended to be some sort of nod to Nazism or fascism or something, why in the flying fuck would you do it?! lol I mean everyone in the literal world knows it would prolly be a bad idea to do anything like that but the self proclaimed Uber genius, smartest man in the world, ultra mega mastermind, God gamer musk... It just slips his mind?
The fact that he does it with such force and enthusaism too...
And turns 180 to do it again.
The guy is clearly a fucking Nazi.
And without denial.
Biting his bottom lip so hard.
so either it was an intended nazi salute or this guy is a fucking moron, or both.
I hate that narrative that the most powerful people on earth are like just morons when they do bad things. Trump got that treatment a lot and I don't think you become the president of the USA a second time if you're an idiot.
Same goes for elon.
There is no excuse IMO.
100% and you gotta do some Olympic gold medal level mental gymnastics to even entertain any other possibility imo
Generally you don't yeet your heart out with such force either
I'll give him this. That shit was crisp. Almost as if he stood in front of a mirror practicing it over and over.
He grunted as well. There was force involved
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